[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Proposal for capital and emphasis in UEB
- From: "Christo de Klerk" <cjdk@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:09:32 +0200
Hi Bert
Many thanks. I am sure it will be very helpful.
Kind regards
Christo
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From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bert Frees
Sent: 28 January 2015 5:07 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Proposal for capital and emphasis in UEB
I know. Explaining the translation rules to someone without going deeper
into how liblouis works internally has proven to be difficult. This is a
deeply rooted problem, because the two ARE indeed very tied together.
Currently, trying to understand the liblouis internals is still the best
road to mastering the translation rules.
I have done an attempt to decouple translation rules from liblouis
specifics, in a document called "Liblouis Table Specification"[1]. It was
successful in the sense that I managed to define precisely what each rule
does, without going into implementation details. But on the other hand the
definitions are still very technical (and complicated) in some cases.
Something I quite like in this documentation though is that it tries to
teach by example, and the examples are actually checked by running them
through liblouis. Have a look, it might help you understand things better.
Note that it's meant as a technical document, not so much as an easy read.
Also it's work in progress.
[1]: http://snaekobbi.github.io/liblouis-table-spec
Keith Creasy writes:
> As I said, it's better than a lot of what I've seen but it is not an
> easy read. It's helpful to read the sections that talk about how
> LibLouis works and then go over the specifics of op codes, arguments, etc.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Christo de Klerk
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:15 AM
> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Proposal for capital and emphasis
> in UEB
>
> That is exactly how I felt at the time when I last looked at some
> LibLouis documentation. I had a look now at what Christian had pointed
> me to and I had certainly never seen it before and as it is now, it
> looks clear and helpful. The stuff I had looked at before, was probably
rather dated.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
> Creasy
> Sent: 28 January 2015 4:09 PM
> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Proposal for capital and emphasis
> in UEB
>
> My comment regarding the LibLouis documentation from when I first
> began to work with it is that it seems to be written from the
> perspective of someone who is already very familiar with how LibLouis
> works and therefor in places it isn't clear what is meant. It also has
> a lot of strange typos, unless they've been corrected recently. It is
> better documentation than I've seen with other projects but for
> someone who is not familiar with the inner workings of LibLouis and
> the background behind it the docs are difficult. Try reading it from
> the perspective of someone new to LibLouis and understand exactly what
> an "op code" is and what it does. The answer is that it depends and isn't
really clear at all.
>
>
> I'm not criticizing, just trying to explain why people new to this
> sometimes have a hard time understanding how to write and design tables.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bert
> Frees
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:55 AM
> To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Proposal for capital and emphasis
> in UEB
>
> Surely a programmer who has been working with Duxbury tables for 30
> years can not be called a "dunce" :D If we can't teach you then the
> documentation must be really bad!
>
>
> Christian Egli writes:
>
>> On 01/28/2015 01:51 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to become involved in table development, but have not
>>> been able to find documentation to teach a dunce like me in baby
>>> steps how to get started.
>>
>> Have you looked at
>> http://www.liblouis.org/documentation/liblouis.html
>> in particular the section 2 named "How to Write Translation Tables".
>> Does that help?
>>
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