Hi Javier, Well regarding patents I'm fairly sure it will be 20 years if the owner m= aintains them - i.e. keeps paying the fees (I'm named as inventor on 15 granted US= patents, for my sins, none helpful to this problem!!). the different time= estimates comes from the issue of knowing how long it took from first fil= ing to grant. However, either way I suspect the patents won't have run out y= et - even if they have there is still the issue of doing the ASIC design wor= k, testing, etc., which I would guess will take a minimum 18 months from pro= ject start. Regarding focus, I'm pleased to hear for you it is not an issue, however,= I'm just not able to focus that reliably any longer due to an eyesight p= roblem (i.e. the 80 f1.4 wide open / one/ two stops down has become hit and miss= ). I'm not saying there is any defect with the camera or MF 'on demand' conc= ept but for me focus confirmation (as far as I have tried it so far) looks li= ke it might be an answer for my circumstances. It also allows me to switch t= o digital on a budget of under =A3600 / ~US$1000 (400D body and 2 adaptors)= . Hence my earlier concern 'is the confirmation accurate' - a quick test su= ggests it is but I'll post my findings (if anyone is interested ;-)) after I've tried it out in 'real' situations. By the way, I think I recall reading (in AP?) Contax had to drop the focu= s confirmation because they ran out of chips (ICs) and the old design could= n't be put on a new process. But my memory on this is hazy to say the least! Best regards Keith >-- Original Message -- >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:26:10 -0700 (PDT) >From: Javier Perez <summarex@xxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [LRflex] Re: Photokina and other disasters... >To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Reply-to: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Hi >I have heard 17 years for patents but I.m not sure >because everybody seems to have a different figure. As >for the focus confirm, I'm not so sure they would want >to go with it. I have used the original AL-1 and an RX >as well as the various EOSes on manual. What I've >always found is that with a split image screen and >diopter correction I can focus as well or better >myself. I really don't think it's that much of a >benefit except in very special situations. Perhaps >that's why they got rid of it with the RX2. Whenever I >use my RX I ignore the confirm altogether and don't >have a problem with focusing. There really is no >substitute for what I guess you might call focus on >demand. I learned that when I got into EOSes and the >N1. > >Javier > >--- keith.r.edwards@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> Hi Javier, >> >> Patents normally last 20 years (if they are still in >> force), I wouldn't h=3D >> old >> your breath :-) >> The Canon EOS / Leica Lens - autofocus confirm route >> (yes I know the lens=3D >> >> is manual focus!) looks good 'stopgap' to me (most >> of the benefits only r=3D >> eal >> downside is having to stop the lens down before >> pressing the shutter). I >> even think Leica might sell a few more lenses as a >> result! >> >> Best regards >> Keith >> >> >> >-- Original Message -- >> >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:40:52 -0700 (PDT) >> >From: Javier Perez <summarex@xxxxxxxxx> >> >Subject: [LRflex] Re: Photokina and other >> disasters... >> >To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Reply-to: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> > >> >Howdy >> >Another thing I was thinking of. The AX came out I >> >think around 96. That means it's patents were >> probably >> >applied for around 95 or 94 so they may only have 5 >> >years left in them. Now of course, Leitz can't wait >> 5 >> >years to introduce an AF SLR but when patents start >> >etting old, the owners are a lot more likely to >> >license them so they can at least get some >> additional >> >income out of them. I wouldn't be surprised if >> Leitz >> >decided to go the AX route, at least as a stopgap >> >until it can develop new generation of AF retro >> >lenses. >> > >> >Javier >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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