Re: new JAWS 9.0.515
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:55:16 -0800
Don,
yes. Let's say you're on a Web page. A normal Web page. The printer friendly
version of a New York Times article at nytimes.com, for example. Nothing
unusual about the page itself.
Now, sometimes I like to copy and paste such an article into an email, or
even into a Word document. I know other ways to send a URL or a Web page,
and I know how to save the page as a text file and then copy and paste from
that new file, if I wish to. But never mind these options. I'm not looking
for an alternative. I'm simply describing a function that doesn't work
correctly anymore.
Okay. So I'm on the page. I press Control A to select all. I hear Jaws
report that so many characters have been selected, which is normal. However,
and this may be a clue to anyone else who's partially sighted, as I am: At
this point, the selected material always used to darken, which from
better-sighted days I remember was the visual clue to what material had been
selected. Well, now the selected text doesn't change appearance. That isn't
a complaint. It's a possible clue to eventual diagnosis by the pros.
Okay. Then I press Control C. I hear Jaws report that I've copied the
material to the clipboard. Except for the lack of contrast change up to that
point, it must sound as if everything's normal. However, interestingly, it's
at this point, as I perform the copy keystroke, that the selected text
darkens. This is weird. Again, maybe a clue to a programmer type.
Now, if I paste this material into an email I'm creating, it works, although
with one odd glitch, which may be another clue about something: It creates
so many blank lines above the first line of the text on the page that at
least the first screen of my new email is blank, and to see that the text
has been pasted, I have to arrow down quite a bit until I come to any of it.
Now, that's a bit odd, of course. But here's an even worse result. If I
paste the same thing into an open Word 2000 document,the Word doc remains
blank for a moment, and then Word crashes, providing a dialogue asking
whether I want to send a report, etc. Afterward, for several launches, Word
asks questions about the normal.dot template, which I wasn't aware of having
altered, or forbids me to exit Word without doing something to save a
version of that template, when I have no idea why it's giving me a hard
time. If I play tricks, can't even remember how I got out of this last time,
it finally gives up and lets me exit in a normal way, but the whole
experience is crazy.
And it is caused by my attempting to paste in a Web page I've copied to
clipboard, as I said. Something which has always been a perfectly normal
operation.
I hope that's a good enough description. Has something like this happened to
you? Or were you just curious?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: new JAWS 9.0.515
Hi Yardbird,
You wrote, in part:
"IE 7 select all (control A)on a Web page for copying to clipboard doesn't
work right" (end of quote)
Could you please elaborate on this?
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: new JAWS 9.0.515
> It seems some users aren't experiencing many, or any, inconveniences with
> this release, but over the couple of days I've had it installed, I'm
> discovering quite an inventory of problems, which I'm compiling a list of
> so
> that I can report as much as possible to FS at the same time. Here are
> some
> examples, and I'd be curious to know if anyone else is having the same
> issues.
>
> IE 7 select all (control A)on a Web page for copying to clipboard doesn't
> work right, and if I don't play games like pressing Control C twice
> instead
> of once (learned by experimenting), then trying to paste into an open Word
> document crashes Word.
>
> In edit fields like the Save As dialogue in Word and the hotkey assignment
> in properties for a program icon, Jaws doesn't echo typing or speak when I
> use Say Line. Oddly, it does speak the autocomplete as it fills in the
> path
> and filename edit field in Save As, which of course gets ahead of what I'm
> trying to do, but it won't allow me to read what has been auto filled in
> and
> edit it. Nor to edit what I type in myself after selecting and deleting
> that
> stuff. Useless.
>
> When beginning to type a message in the message area of a new Outlook
> Express message, Jaws speaks whatever it accidentally is focused on, which
> is sometimes the From line of the headers, sometimes the To line, and so
> forth. Very quirky, although more annoying than disabling, unlike the
> above
> examples.
>
> And here's some unwelcome news to share. Scripts for AdAware and Spyware
> Blaster aren't working at all. I've explored both with the Jaws cursor,
> but
> can't make much sense of either, and that's okay. I've exited this version
> and launched Jaws 8 so I can get things done today. Now to alt tab around
> the task bar and see if Lavasoft finally finished downloading the latest
> AdAware update. Now and then the update downloads as quickly as it always
> has, but more often, it creeps along or just sticks for minutes at a time.
> No, I'm not having download issues otherwise. It's Lavasoft, not me.
>
> Okay, that's it so far. Going to write to FS and pretend to myself I'm
> taking part in the public Beta testing. After the final release.
> Whatever...
> <shrug>
>
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