Daniel, A friend of mine sent me a "picture" about a year ago resembling what he "sees" with his particular diatetic retinopathy infirmity, it was a picture doted with all kinds of black splotches and opaque splotches carving out particular parts of an otherwise wide view. I've also seen other "pictures" where views had lurred-out areas that make the whole picture almost unviewable. So I can imagine any number of variables of how people might have vision and yet not see. It certainly is a reminder to me, just as your posts are, how challenging the low-vision arena really is, how we can't take for granted what we have, and how we have to understand others' challenges that might be much greater than our own. At least you have a very good grasp of what you can and can't see. Many "sighted" people simply can't figure out what their sight problems are and/or don't pay attention to what they see let alone find ways to cope with it, so at least you are doing all you can with what you have. Bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx