[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install

  • From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:12:08 -0400

Hi all,
Well went to update Jaws and there is a new build I think 1051.
Ann

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:22 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install


> Can you call tomorrow because I have a commitment this evening with 
> family.
> Then I promised my nephews that I would watch American Idle with them.
> Thanks for responding and I really appreciate all your input.
> Ann
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:38 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> Yes, will do.  I am in Brooklyn.  I will call you tonight when I get 
>> home.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:15 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gianni,
>>> Do you want to speak on phone?
>>> I can call you if you provide your number?
>>> Or call me in Yonkers, NY, 914-968-4706.
>>> Unsure if you are in USA?
>>> Ann
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:43 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have already written scripts for it.  Why don't we talk off list?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:48 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Geoff,
>>>>> Reason for my Scratch Live is that I am trying to script software for 
>>>>> a
>>>>> local DJ.
>>>>> I am using Windows XP and Jaws10.x.  If I upgrade Jaws then do I need
>>>>> to
>>>>> repeat this process each time FS has a Jaws upgrade?
>>>>> Well I used the find command to get JFW.ini.  I copied file into my
>>>>> documents as backup.
>>>>> How do I know that added statement is correct spelling or syntax?I
>>>>> changed
>>>>> file as follows:
>>>>> [Options]
>>>>> ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a
>>>>> firewall
>>>>> ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>>>>> ; JAWS starts.  This setting is off by default and is ignored when 
>>>>> JAWS
>>>>> ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>>>>> FirewallCheck=0
>>>>> ; If AutoUpdatesEnabled is set to 1, the you can query for JAWS 
>>>>> updates
>>>>> ; from the main menu.
>>>>> AutoUpdatesEnabled=1
>>>>> ; Source path of the Automatic Updates Dll.  Multiple paths are
>>>>> delimited
>>>>> ; by a semi-colon.
>>>>> UpdateDllSource=ftp://ftp.FreedomScientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/JAWSUpd
>>>>>
>>>>> ate.dll;http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/JAWSUpdate.dll
>>>>>
>>>>> [Synthesizers]
>>>>> Synth1Name=eloq
>>>>> Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>>>>> Synth1Driver=eloq
>>>>> ;; added line 5/20/09 Ann Medlar
>>>>> Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>>>>> ; end add  on 5/20/09 A Medlar
>>>>> Synth2Name=SAPI 5X
>>>>> Synth2LongName=SAPI 5
>>>>> Synth2Driver=sapi5x
>>>>> Synth3Name=RealSpeak
>>>>> Synth3LongName=RealSpeak Solo Direct
>>>>> Synth3Driver=RealSpeak
>>>>> [Remote Access]
>>>>> UseVirtualSpeech=1
>>>>> UseVirtualBraille=1
>>>>> No sighted help around so I hesitate to experiment.  I think I'll wait
>>>>> until
>>>>> I hear from my friend who btw is far away from me.
>>>>> Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ok GianniP46. hang on a second here.
>>>>>> are you saying that this scratch live thing requires another add-on
>>>>>> piece
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> hardware/equipment to even run/be in the least useful for it's
>>>>>> application?
>>>>>> which contains it's own audio device in that hardware?
>>>>>> Because, if this is the case, did you realize this ann? What exactly
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> task your wanting to solve here with this program ann? we better find
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> it is really what you want/need, before we go much further in trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> solve this one, re configuration of jaws into separate sound cards 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> complexities of that one,
>>>>>> ought not we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann. well, ... ok here's the complexity.
>>>>>> jaws10, for the first time,
>>>>>> has finally implemented a sound card/audio device, (they mean the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> by the way,)
>>>>>> manager, right into the utilities submenu  from their main 
>>>>>> application
>>>>>> context menu, if jaws is running in system tray.
>>>>>> i.e. if it is, and if you have jaws 10, you could try hitting
>>>>>> insert+j,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> down arrowing to utilities, then right arrowing, and looking at the
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> available ports in your available sound cards, and hitting enter on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> you'd like.
>>>>>> I say, try, this, because, it's the very first itteration of this
>>>>>> feature,
>>>>>> and, well all I can tell you from my own personal experience having
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> tested it here on my system, is, it doesn't work for me!
>>>>>> even closing and restarting jaws, even though it shows a checkmark in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> menu when I go back in there, next to the sound card/audio device I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> to use, it's definitely not being output from that device!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now of course I don't know whether this is something in my local
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> here, I presume so for surely they couldn't release it if it plain
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> work, but, as I say, my experience today was here it didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, there's a more techy "back end," way, of forcing jaws to use the
>>>>>> soundcard you want it to use. and this does work for me under windows
>>>>>> xp,
>>>>>> it's what I use to make it happen. and it'll obviously also work for
>>>>>> jaws
>>>>>> versions earlier than 10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now when I say this, i add the important following caveats!
>>>>>> 1. this is using windows xp.  if you've got windows vista installed,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> you may well have since you mention it as  a new pc, then this might
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> work either! and you may have to get your kind friend around for you
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> suggests such gymnastics as she/he has, and ask them to help you out
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> 2. this is something in my view, that you don't wanna mess with 
>>>>>> alone,
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> if you mess it up, you might get yourself into a situation of having
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> speech output from jaws
>>>>>> at all, if your speech synth is misdirected to some audio device that
>>>>>> doesn't exist or whatever.  So I caution you to have sighted help
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> before attempting any of this.
>>>>>> The following instructions may thus only be valid for a windows xp
>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the back end way which we've done this for years is:
>>>>>> 1. open my computer, go to program files, then freedom scientific,
>>>>>> (i.e.
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> freedom scientific installation information,)
>>>>>> then into the folder called jaws, (i.e. not "runTime jaws, just 
>>>>>> jaws,"
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> into the version of jaws you have installed, i.e. 9.0, 10.0 etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. hit alt+v, then l, to insure your list is in an upDown
>>>>>> configuration,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> not in multiple columns across the screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. hit alt+v, then i, for arrange icons, then see if, "name,"
>>>>>> identifies
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> check mark next to it. if it does, hit alt key to dismiss the menu 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> leave
>>>>>> alone. if not, hit enter on name, such that the list is displayed in
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> order, and not some other order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. type the letters, j f, quickly, to jump to the files starting with
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> letters.
>>>>>> now, here's where things can get kinda messy.
>>>>>> hopefully, although windows doesn't ship this way by default, you 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> altered the settings such that you will hear the file extensions, 
>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 3
>>>>>> character part after the period in every file name, which helps 
>>>>>> denote
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> windows, what file type each file is.
>>>>>> now there are multiple files in here beginning withi the letters jfw,
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> want the one called jfw.ini.  now if you don't have extentions
>>>>>> enabled,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> you may be in the unpleasant situation of only being informed that 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> 3
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the first files in alphabetical order, all speak simply as, jfw.
>>>>>> However, they are not the same. in my list here, the first is 
>>>>>> jfw.enu,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> second is jfw.exe, and the third, is the one you want, jfw.ini.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. hit enter on jfw.ini,  and hopefully it will have notepad as the
>>>>>> default
>>>>>> word processor to handle ini files,
>>>>>> and open it in that program. if it comes up with a box indicating it
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> know how to handle these, then try choosing that you want it to open
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> notepad. instructions how to do this beyond the scope of this
>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. if you've got the right file, you should see lines like the
>>>>>> following:
>>>>>> [Options]
>>>>>> ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a
>>>>>> firewall
>>>>>> ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>>>>>> ; JAWS starts.  This setting is off by default and is ignored when
>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>> ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>>>>>> FirewallCheck=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> note that some lines begin with semi colons in here, they are lines
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> are comments, and don't get processed by windows as valid compile
>>>>>> lines,
>>>>>> just like in script manager.
>>>>>> this is handy to know if you wanna have multiple lines, and switch
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> or off from being processed by placing semi colons at their far left
>>>>>> hand
>>>>>> ends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also note that sections in here, are denoted by being surrounded with
>>>>>> brackets. like
>>>>>> [options] [
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Synthesizers]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7. scroll down until you find the section called
>>>>>> [Synthesizers]
>>>>>> you should see in here, lines like:
>>>>>> Synth1Name=eloq
>>>>>> Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>>>>>> Synth1Driver=eloq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8. now, presuming you are just using default settings and eloquence 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> main synth, and thus utilizing synth1 settings here,
>>>>>> just above the lines starting with synth2, make a blank line by
>>>>>> hitting
>>>>>> home
>>>>>> on that line then hitting enter, then up arrowing again such that 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> the blank line, just below the line
>>>>>> Synth1Driver=eloq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 9. now what we need to do here is paste in a line like the following,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> with the name of the sound card you want to force jaws to use after
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> words,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Synth1Port=
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but exactly, as displayed in sounds and audio devices in control
>>>>>> pannel,
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the, "audio" tab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .  given your message of what looks like three sound cards/audio
>>>>>> devices
>>>>>> your system currently has installed,, if you wanted jaws to use the
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> max audio device for example, you might try the following line:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now this is assuming, that this is the way this audio device appears
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> above place on your system, as taken from what you've posted about 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> can't guarantee this will be the case of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then hit control+s to save, and, as I say, insuring you have sighted
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> about, in case this fails totally and you lose speech, quit and
>>>>>> restart
>>>>>> jaws. and see if it now comes out the sound max digital audio device.
>>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:13 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The hardware that you have to use with ScratchLive acts as the sound
>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>> for the music and the regular sound card handles Jaws.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately.  I am
>>>>>>> >just
>>>>>>> > curious.  If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want
>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> > a
>>>>>>> > second sound card anyway?  I thought most blind DJs typically
>>>>>>> > directed
>>>>>>> > JAWS
>>>>>>> > to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the
>>>>>> music.
>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>> > would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to
>>>>>>> > headphones
>>>>>>> > would be the typical solution.  This should certainly eliminate 
>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>> > DJ
>>>>>>> > program from distorting JAWS.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or
>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>> > situation.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Don Marang
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
>>>>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your
>>>>>>> >> puter?
>>>>>>> >> and
>>>>>>> >> Ann, what have you got.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> >> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems.  I
>>>>>>> >>> have
>>>>>>> >>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem
>>>>>>> >>> with
>>>>>>> >> fuzzy
>>>>>>> >>> speech.
>>>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> >>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>>>>>>> >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>>>>>>> >>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's
>>>>>>> >>> > comments
>>>>>>> >>> > who
>>>>>>> >>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws 
>>>>>>> >>> > key,",
>>>>>>> >>> > do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> >>> > mean
>>>>>>> >>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor?  and are you
>>>>>>> >>> > saying
>>>>>>> >>> > you
>>>>>>> >>> > cannot
>>>>>>> >>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live
>>>>>>> >>> > software
>>>>>>> >>> > program?
>>>>>>> >>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>>>>>>> >>> > man that does seem very strange.  I wish I could actually hear
>>>>>>> >>> > what
>>>>>>> >>> > your
>>>>>>> >>> > talking about here.  we can't have attachments to the list
>>>>>>> >>> > posts
>>>>>>> >>> > can
>>>>>>> >>> > we
>>>>>>> >>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal,"
>>>>>>> >>> > and
>>>>>>> >>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>>>>>>> >>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech
>>>>>>> >>> > synthesizer
>>>>>>> >>> > are
>>>>>>> >>> > you
>>>>>>> >>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can 
>>>>>>> >>> > be
>>>>>>> >>> > made
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>> >>> > pipe
>>>>>>> >>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. 
>>>>>>> >>> > Though
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> >>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible
>>>>>>> >>> > performance
>>>>>>> >> usage
>>>>>>> >>> > it
>>>>>>> >>> > seems to require.
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found
>>>>>>> >>> > something
>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>> >> odd
>>>>>>> >>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer
>>>>>>> >>> > systems.
>>>>>>> >>> > Glen
>>>>>>> >>> > from
>>>>>>> >>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to
>>>>>>> >>> > some
>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> >>> > about
>>>>>>> >>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get 
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>> >>> > the
>>>>>>> >> bottom
>>>>>>> >>> > of what might be going on.
>>>>>>> >>> > Being an audio man/musician  myself, my claim was, that on my
>>>>>>> >>> > 98
>>>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>>>> >>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum
>>>>>>> >>> > sound
>>>>>>> >>> > card
>>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>>> >>> > think it is,
>>>>>>> >>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it
>>>>>>> >>> > simply
>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> >>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max
>>>>>>> >>> > digital
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> >>> > sound
>>>>>>> >>> > card.
>>>>>>> >>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the
>>>>>>> >>> > xp
>>>>>> box,
>>>>>>> >>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all
>>>>>>> >>> > the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> >> nice
>>>>>>> >>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't 
>>>>>>> >>> > present,
>>>>>>> >>> > when
>>>>>>> >>> > running
>>>>>>> >>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the
>>>>>>> >>> > end,
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> >>> > that
>>>>>>> >>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max
>>>>>>> >>> > drivers,
>>>>>>> >> handled
>>>>>>> >>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws 
>>>>>>> >>> > rendering
>>>>>>> >>> > of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>>>>>>> >>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound
>>>>>>> >>> > card,
>>>>>>> >>> > was
>>>>>>> >>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz,
>>>>>>> >>> > actually
>>>>>>> >> seemingly
>>>>>>> >>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced,
>>>>>>> >>> > but
>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> >> so
>>>>>>> >>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>>>>>>> >>> > undesirable,
>>>>>>> >>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that
>>>>>>> >>> > naturally
>>>>>>> >>> > tends
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>> >>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully
>>>>>>> >>> > filtered
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>> >> remove
>>>>>>> >>> > those.
>>>>>>> >>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>>>>>>> >>> > eloquence
>>>>>>> >>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to
>>>>>>> >>> > be
>>>>>>> >>> > output
>>>>>>> >>> > at
>>>>>>> >>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end
>>>>>>> >>> > when
>>>>>>> >>> > compared
>>>>>>> >>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence,
>>>>>>> >>> > which
>>>>>>> >>> > I
>>>>>>> >> think
>>>>>>> >>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to
>>>>>>> >>> > 22khz,
>>>>>>> >>> > and
>>>>>>> >>> > jaws
>>>>>>> >>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>>>>>>> >>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple
>>>>>>> >>> > weeks,
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> >> do
>>>>>>> >>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>>>>>>> >> "fuzzyness,"
>>>>>>> >>> > and, "off-station," sound  of jaws/eloquence your seeking to
>>>>>> describe,
>>>>>>> >> is
>>>>>>> >>> > a
>>>>>>> >>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it 
>>>>>>> >>> > sounds
>>>>>>> >>> > more
>>>>>>> >> like
>>>>>>> >>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital
>>>>>>> >>> > artifacts
>>>>>>> >> thrown
>>>>>>> >>> > in on top.
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess
>>>>>>> >>> > that
>>>>>>> >>> > the
>>>>>>> >>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which
>>>>>>> >>> > is
>>>>>>> >>> > forcing
>>>>>>> >>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>> >> 22.khz,
>>>>>>> >>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds 
>>>>>>> >>> > on
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> >>> > puters
>>>>>>> >>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without
>>>>>> seeking
>>>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>> >>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's
>>>>>>> >>> > just
>>>>>>> >>> > a
>>>>>>> >> guess.
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> >>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>>>>>>> >>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I 
>>>>>>> >>> >> replied
>>>>>>> >>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> Jeff's
>>>>>>> >>> > message.
>>>>>>> >>> >>     Hi,
>>>>>>> >>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter
>>>>>>> >>> >> on
>>>>>>> >>> >> Scratch
>>>>>>> >>> > Live
>>>>>>> >>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station.  I press insert+F4 to
>>>>>>> >>> >> unload
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >>> > restart
>>>>>>> >>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio
>>>>>>> >>> >> station.
>>>>>> Fuzz
>>>>>>> >>> > sound
>>>>>>> >>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>>>>>> >>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>> >> and
>>>>>>> >>> >> saved
>>>>>>> >>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop.   I then went to Serato folder
>>>>>>> >>> >> which
>>>>>>> >>> >> had
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> >>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder  which contained Vista,
>>>>>>> >>> >> Vista64,
>>>>>>> >>> >> and
>>>>>>> >>> >> XP
>>>>>>> >>> > were
>>>>>>> >>> >> sub folders.  I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were
>>>>>>> >>> >> sub
>>>>>>> >> folders.
>>>>>>> >>> > I
>>>>>>> >>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather
>>>>>>> >>> >> than
>>>>>>> >> custom.
>>>>>>> >>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus.
>>>>>>> >>> >> I
>>>>>>> >>> >> use
>>>>>>> >> Jaws
>>>>>>> >>> > key
>>>>>>> >>> >> and nothing speaks.
>>>>>>> >>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>>>>>> >>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>>>>>>> >>> >> Ann
>>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> >> __________
>>>>>>> >>> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>>> >> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>>> >>> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > __________
>>>>>>> >>> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>>> >> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>>> >>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> __________
>>>>>>> >>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>>> >>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> __________
>>>>>>> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>>> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > __________
>>>>>>> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> __________
>>>>>>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __________
>>>>>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________
>>>>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>>
>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________
>>>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>
>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>
>>>
>>> __________
>>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository 
>>> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>
>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>
>>>
>>
>> __________
>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com
>>
>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>
>
> __________
> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com
>
> View the list's information and change your settings at
> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> 

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View the list's information and change your settings at 
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