[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:38:18 -0400
Yes, will do. I am in Brooklyn. I will call you tonight when I get home.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
> Hi Gianni,
> Do you want to speak on phone?
> I can call you if you provide your number?
> Or call me in Yonkers, NY, 914-968-4706.
> Unsure if you are in USA?
> Ann
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:43 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>>I have already written scripts for it. Why don't we talk off list?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:48 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> Hello Geoff,
>>> Reason for my Scratch Live is that I am trying to script software for a
>>> local DJ.
>>> I am using Windows XP and Jaws10.x. If I upgrade Jaws then do I need to
>>> repeat this process each time FS has a Jaws upgrade?
>>> Well I used the find command to get JFW.ini. I copied file into my
>>> documents as backup.
>>> How do I know that added statement is correct spelling or syntax?I
>>> changed
>>> file as follows:
>>> [Options]
>>> ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a firewall
>>> ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>>> ; JAWS starts. This setting is off by default and is ignored when JAWS
>>> ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>>> FirewallCheck=0
>>> ; If AutoUpdatesEnabled is set to 1, the you can query for JAWS updates
>>> ; from the main menu.
>>> AutoUpdatesEnabled=1
>>> ; Source path of the Automatic Updates Dll. Multiple paths are
>>> delimited
>>> ; by a semi-colon.
>>> UpdateDllSource=ftp://ftp.FreedomScientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/JAWSUpd
>>>
>>> ate.dll;http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/JAWSUpdate.dll
>>>
>>> [Synthesizers]
>>> Synth1Name=eloq
>>> Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>>> Synth1Driver=eloq
>>> ;; added line 5/20/09 Ann Medlar
>>> Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>>> ; end add on 5/20/09 A Medlar
>>> Synth2Name=SAPI 5X
>>> Synth2LongName=SAPI 5
>>> Synth2Driver=sapi5x
>>> Synth3Name=RealSpeak
>>> Synth3LongName=RealSpeak Solo Direct
>>> Synth3Driver=RealSpeak
>>> [Remote Access]
>>> UseVirtualSpeech=1
>>> UseVirtualBraille=1
>>> No sighted help around so I hesitate to experiment. I think I'll wait
>>> until
>>> I hear from my friend who btw is far away from me.
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>
>>>
>>>> ok GianniP46. hang on a second here.
>>>> are you saying that this scratch live thing requires another add-on
>>>> piece
>>>> of
>>>> hardware/equipment to even run/be in the least useful for it's
>>>> application?
>>>> which contains it's own audio device in that hardware?
>>>> Because, if this is the case, did you realize this ann? What exactly is
>>>> the
>>>> task your wanting to solve here with this program ann? we better find
>>>> out
>>>> if
>>>> it is really what you want/need, before we go much further in trying to
>>>> solve this one, re configuration of jaws into separate sound cards and
>>>> the
>>>> complexities of that one,
>>>> ought not we?
>>>>
>>>> Ann. well, ... ok here's the complexity.
>>>> jaws10, for the first time,
>>>> has finally implemented a sound card/audio device, (they mean the same
>>>> thing
>>>> by the way,)
>>>> manager, right into the utilities submenu from their main application
>>>> context menu, if jaws is running in system tray.
>>>> i.e. if it is, and if you have jaws 10, you could try hitting insert+j,
>>>> then
>>>> down arrowing to utilities, then right arrowing, and looking at the
>>>> list
>>>> of
>>>> available ports in your available sound cards, and hitting enter on the
>>>> one
>>>> you'd like.
>>>> I say, try, this, because, it's the very first itteration of this
>>>> feature,
>>>> and, well all I can tell you from my own personal experience having
>>>> just
>>>> tested it here on my system, is, it doesn't work for me!
>>>> even closing and restarting jaws, even though it shows a checkmark in
>>>> that
>>>> menu when I go back in there, next to the sound card/audio device I
>>>> want
>>>> it
>>>> to use, it's definitely not being output from that device!
>>>>
>>>> Now of course I don't know whether this is something in my local system
>>>> here, I presume so for surely they couldn't release it if it plain
>>>> didn't
>>>> work, but, as I say, my experience today was here it didn't.
>>>>
>>>> So, there's a more techy "back end," way, of forcing jaws to use the
>>>> soundcard you want it to use. and this does work for me under windows
>>>> xp,
>>>> it's what I use to make it happen. and it'll obviously also work for
>>>> jaws
>>>> versions earlier than 10.
>>>>
>>>> now when I say this, i add the important following caveats!
>>>> 1. this is using windows xp. if you've got windows vista installed,
>>>> which
>>>> you may well have since you mention it as a new pc, then this might
>>>> not
>>>> work either! and you may have to get your kind friend around for you
>>>> who
>>>> suggests such gymnastics as she/he has, and ask them to help you out
>>>> with
>>>> that.
>>>> 2. this is something in my view, that you don't wanna mess with alone,
>>>> since
>>>> if you mess it up, you might get yourself into a situation of having no
>>>> speech output from jaws
>>>> at all, if your speech synth is misdirected to some audio device that
>>>> doesn't exist or whatever. So I caution you to have sighted help
>>>> around
>>>> before attempting any of this.
>>>> The following instructions may thus only be valid for a windows xp
>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>> the back end way which we've done this for years is:
>>>> 1. open my computer, go to program files, then freedom scientific,
>>>> (i.e.
>>>> not
>>>> freedom scientific installation information,)
>>>> then into the folder called jaws, (i.e. not "runTime jaws, just jaws,"
>>>> then
>>>> into the version of jaws you have installed, i.e. 9.0, 10.0 etc.
>>>>
>>>> 2. hit alt+v, then l, to insure your list is in an upDown
>>>> configuration,
>>>> and
>>>> not in multiple columns across the screen.
>>>>
>>>> 3. hit alt+v, then i, for arrange icons, then see if, "name,"
>>>> identifies
>>>> a
>>>> check mark next to it. if it does, hit alt key to dismiss the menu and
>>>> leave
>>>> alone. if not, hit enter on name, such that the list is displayed in
>>>> name
>>>> order, and not some other order.
>>>>
>>>> 4. type the letters, j f, quickly, to jump to the files starting with
>>>> those
>>>> letters.
>>>> now, here's where things can get kinda messy.
>>>> hopefully, although windows doesn't ship this way by default, you have
>>>> altered the settings such that you will hear the file extensions, i.e.
>>>> the
>>>> 3
>>>> character part after the period in every file name, which helps denote
>>>> to
>>>> windows, what file type each file is.
>>>> now there are multiple files in here beginning withi the letters jfw,
>>>> you
>>>> want the one called jfw.ini. now if you don't have extentions enabled,
>>>> then
>>>> you may be in the unpleasant situation of only being informed that all
>>>> 3
>>>> of
>>>> the first files in alphabetical order, all speak simply as, jfw.
>>>> However, they are not the same. in my list here, the first is jfw.enu,
>>>> the
>>>> second is jfw.exe, and the third, is the one you want, jfw.ini.
>>>>
>>>> 5. hit enter on jfw.ini, and hopefully it will have notepad as the
>>>> default
>>>> word processor to handle ini files,
>>>> and open it in that program. if it comes up with a box indicating it
>>>> doesn't
>>>> know how to handle these, then try choosing that you want it to open in
>>>> notepad. instructions how to do this beyond the scope of this document.
>>>>
>>>> 6. if you've got the right file, you should see lines like the
>>>> following:
>>>> [Options]
>>>> ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a
>>>> firewall
>>>> ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>>>> ; JAWS starts. This setting is off by default and is ignored when JAWS
>>>> ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>>>> FirewallCheck=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> note that some lines begin with semi colons in here, they are lines
>>>> which
>>>> are comments, and don't get processed by windows as valid compile
>>>> lines,
>>>> just like in script manager.
>>>> this is handy to know if you wanna have multiple lines, and switch them
>>>> on
>>>> or off from being processed by placing semi colons at their far left
>>>> hand
>>>> ends.
>>>>
>>>> also note that sections in here, are denoted by being surrounded with
>>>> brackets. like
>>>> [options] [
>>>>
>>>> [Synthesizers]
>>>>
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7. scroll down until you find the section called
>>>> [Synthesizers]
>>>> you should see in here, lines like:
>>>> Synth1Name=eloq
>>>> Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>>>> Synth1Driver=eloq
>>>>
>>>> 8. now, presuming you are just using default settings and eloquence as
>>>> your
>>>> main synth, and thus utilizing synth1 settings here,
>>>> just above the lines starting with synth2, make a blank line by hitting
>>>> home
>>>> on that line then hitting enter, then up arrowing again such that your
>>>> over
>>>> the blank line, just below the line
>>>> Synth1Driver=eloq.
>>>>
>>>> 9. now what we need to do here is paste in a line like the following,
>>>> but
>>>> with the name of the sound card you want to force jaws to use after the
>>>> words,
>>>>
>>>> Synth1Port=
>>>>
>>>> but exactly, as displayed in sounds and audio devices in control
>>>> pannel,
>>>> in
>>>> the, "audio" tab.
>>>>
>>>> . given your message of what looks like three sound cards/audio
>>>> devices
>>>> your system currently has installed,, if you wanted jaws to use the
>>>> sound
>>>> max audio device for example, you might try the following line:
>>>>
>>>> Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> now this is assuming, that this is the way this audio device appears in
>>>> the
>>>> above place on your system, as taken from what you've posted about it.
>>>> but
>>>> I
>>>> can't guarantee this will be the case of course.
>>>>
>>>> then hit control+s to save, and, as I say, insuring you have sighted
>>>> help
>>>> about, in case this fails totally and you lose speech, quit and restart
>>>> jaws. and see if it now comes out the sound max digital audio device.
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:13 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The hardware that you have to use with ScratchLive acts as the sound
>>>>> card
>>>>> for the music and the regular sound card handles Jaws.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately. I am
>>>>> >just
>>>>> > curious. If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want
>>>>> > to
>>>> use
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > second sound card anyway? I thought most blind DJs typically
>>>>> > directed
>>>>> > JAWS
>>>>> > to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the
>>>> music.
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to
>>>>> > headphones
>>>>> > would be the typical solution. This should certainly eliminate the
>>>>> > DJ
>>>>> > program from distorting JAWS.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > situation.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Don Marang
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
>>>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your
>>>>> >> puter?
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> Ann, what have you got.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>>>>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I
>>>>> >>> have
>>>>> >>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem
>>>>> >>> with
>>>>> >> fuzzy
>>>>> >>> speech.
>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>>>>> >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>>>>> >>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's
>>>>> >>> > comments
>>>>> >>> > who
>>>>> >>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,",
>>>>> >>> > do
>>>> you
>>>>> >>> > mean
>>>>> >>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying
>>>>> >>> > you
>>>>> >>> > cannot
>>>>> >>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live
>>>>> >>> > software
>>>>> >>> > program?
>>>>> >>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>>>>> >>> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear
>>>>> >>> > what
>>>>> >>> > your
>>>>> >>> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts
>>>>> >>> > can
>>>>> >>> > we
>>>>> >>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal,"
>>>>> >>> > and
>>>>> >>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>>>>> >>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer
>>>>> >>> > are
>>>>> >>> > you
>>>>> >>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be
>>>>> >>> > made
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >>> > pipe
>>>>> >>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>> me
>>>>> >>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible
>>>>> >>> > performance
>>>>> >> usage
>>>>> >>> > it
>>>>> >>> > seems to require.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something
>>>> quite
>>>>> >> odd
>>>>> >>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer
>>>>> >>> > systems.
>>>>> >>> > Glen
>>>>> >>> > from
>>>>> >>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to
>>>>> >>> > some
>>>> list
>>>>> >>> > about
>>>>> >>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to
>>>>> >>> > the
>>>>> >> bottom
>>>>> >>> > of what might be going on.
>>>>> >>> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98
>>>>> >> machine,
>>>>> >>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum
>>>>> >>> > sound
>>>>> >>> > card
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >>> > think it is,
>>>>> >>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it
>>>>> >>> > simply
>>>> did
>>>>> >>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital
>>>> audio
>>>>> >>> > sound
>>>>> >>> > card.
>>>>> >>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the
>>>>> >>> > xp
>>>> box,
>>>>> >>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the
>>>> same
>>>>> >> nice
>>>>> >>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present,
>>>>> >>> > when
>>>>> >>> > running
>>>>> >>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the
>>>>> >>> > end,
>>>> was
>>>>> >>> > that
>>>>> >>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max
>>>>> >>> > drivers,
>>>>> >> handled
>>>>> >>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering
>>>>> >>> > of
>>>> the
>>>>> >>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>>>>> >>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card,
>>>>> >>> > was
>>>>> >>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
>>>>> >> seemingly
>>>>> >>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced,
>>>>> >>> > but
>>>> did
>>>>> >> so
>>>>> >>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>>>>> >>> > undesirable,
>>>>> >>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that
>>>>> >>> > naturally
>>>>> >>> > tends
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >> remove
>>>>> >>> > those.
>>>>> >>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>>>>> >>> > eloquence
>>>>> >>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to
>>>>> >>> > be
>>>>> >>> > output
>>>>> >>> > at
>>>>> >>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end
>>>>> >>> > when
>>>>> >>> > compared
>>>>> >>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence,
>>>>> >>> > which
>>>>> >>> > I
>>>>> >> think
>>>>> >>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to
>>>>> >>> > 22khz,
>>>>> >>> > and
>>>>> >>> > jaws
>>>>> >>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>>>>> >>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple
>>>>> >>> > weeks,
>>>> to
>>>>> >> do
>>>>> >>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>>>>> >> "fuzzyness,"
>>>>> >>> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to
>>>> describe,
>>>>> >> is
>>>>> >>> > a
>>>>> >>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds
>>>>> >>> > more
>>>>> >> like
>>>>> >>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital
>>>>> >>> > artifacts
>>>>> >> thrown
>>>>> >>> > in on top.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess
>>>>> >>> > that
>>>>> >>> > the
>>>>> >>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is
>>>>> >>> > forcing
>>>>> >>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >> 22.khz,
>>>>> >>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on
>>>> their
>>>>> >>> > puters
>>>>> >>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without
>>>> seeking
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's
>>>>> >>> > just
>>>>> >>> > a
>>>>> >> guess.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>>>>> >>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied
>>>>> >>> >> to
>>>>> >> Jeff's
>>>>> >>> > message.
>>>>> >>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on
>>>>> >>> >> Scratch
>>>>> >>> > Live
>>>>> >>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to
>>>>> >>> >> unload
>>>> and
>>>>> >>> > restart
>>>>> >>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station.
>>>> Fuzz
>>>>> >>> > sound
>>>>> >>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>>>> >>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and
>>>> downloaded
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >>> >> saved
>>>>> >>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which
>>>>> >>> >> had
>>>> a
>>>>> >>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64,
>>>>> >>> >> and
>>>>> >>> >> XP
>>>>> >>> > were
>>>>> >>> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub
>>>>> >> folders.
>>>>> >>> > I
>>>>> >>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather
>>>>> >>> >> than
>>>>> >> custom.
>>>>> >>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I
>>>>> >>> >> use
>>>>> >> Jaws
>>>>> >>> > key
>>>>> >>> >> and nothing speaks.
>>>>> >>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>>>> >>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>>>>> >>> >> Ann
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> __________
>>>>> >>> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>>>>> >> http://jawsscripts.com
>>>>> >>> >>
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>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > __________
>>>>> >>> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
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>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > View the list's information and change your settings at
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>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> __________
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>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> __________
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>>>> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > __________
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>>>>> >
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> __________
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>>>>>
>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
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>>>
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