[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "Stan Bobbitt" <SBOBBITT@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:08:49 -0400
Hi, I had the same problem. I installed JAWS10 from the CD then had it
check for updates, each time the update failed to install. I talked to tech
support today; they said to go to the FS website, click downloads, download
the update, 1142 or 1151 are both there, and update that way. It worked ...
Stan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:10 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
> Hi Geoff,
> Had a late night last night. I tried to update Jaws and update failed.
> Will try again when I get back from a walk with my guide dog. hot in NYC
> today. I'll also read about hot spot link.
> Ann
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:09 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> ALSO DID YOU TRY THE JAWS 10 SOUND CARD SWITCHING MANAGER OPTIONS UNDER
>> UTILITY MENU? MAYBE THEY'LL WORK FOR YOU!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:48 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> Hello Geoff,
>>> Reason for my Scratch Live is that I am trying to script software for a
>>> local DJ.
>>> I am using Windows XP and Jaws10.x. If I upgrade Jaws then do I need to
>>> repeat this process each time FS has a Jaws upgrade?
>>> Well I used the find command to get JFW.ini. I copied file into my
>>> documents as backup.
>>> How do I know that added statement is correct spelling or syntax?I
>>> changed
>>> file as follows:
>>> [Options]
>>> ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a firewall
>>> ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>>> ; JAWS starts. This setting is off by default and is ignored when JAWS
>>> ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>>> FirewallCheck=0
>>> ; If AutoUpdatesEnabled is set to 1, the you can query for JAWS updates
>>> ; from the main menu.
>>> AutoUpdatesEnabled=1
>>> ; Source path of the Automatic Updates Dll. Multiple paths are
>>> delimited
>>> ; by a semi-colon.
>>>
>> UpdateDllSource=ftp://ftp.FreedomScientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/Au
>> toUpdate/JAWSUpd
>>>
>>>
>> ate.dll;http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/JAWSUpdate.dl
>> l
>>>
>>> [Synthesizers]
>>> Synth1Name=eloq
>>> Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>>> Synth1Driver=eloq
>>> ;; added line 5/20/09 Ann Medlar
>>> Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>>> ; end add on 5/20/09 A Medlar
>>> Synth2Name=SAPI 5X
>>> Synth2LongName=SAPI 5
>>> Synth2Driver=sapi5x
>>> Synth3Name=RealSpeak
>>> Synth3LongName=RealSpeak Solo Direct
>>> Synth3Driver=RealSpeak
>>> [Remote Access]
>>> UseVirtualSpeech=1
>>> UseVirtualBraille=1
>>> No sighted help around so I hesitate to experiment. I think I'll wait
>> until
>>> I hear from my friend who btw is far away from me.
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>>
>>>
>>> > ok GianniP46. hang on a second here.
>>> > are you saying that this scratch live thing requires another add-on
>> piece
>>> > of
>>> > hardware/equipment to even run/be in the least useful for it's
>>> > application?
>>> > which contains it's own audio device in that hardware?
>>> > Because, if this is the case, did you realize this ann? What exactly
>>> > is
>>> > the
>>> > task your wanting to solve here with this program ann? we better find
>> out
>>> > if
>>> > it is really what you want/need, before we go much further in trying
>>> > to
>>> > solve this one, re configuration of jaws into separate sound cards and
>> the
>>> > complexities of that one,
>>> > ought not we?
>>> >
>>> > Ann. well, ... ok here's the complexity.
>>> > jaws10, for the first time,
>>> > has finally implemented a sound card/audio device, (they mean the same
>>> > thing
>>> > by the way,)
>>> > manager, right into the utilities submenu from their main application
>>> > context menu, if jaws is running in system tray.
>>> > i.e. if it is, and if you have jaws 10, you could try hitting
>>> > insert+j,
>>> > then
>>> > down arrowing to utilities, then right arrowing, and looking at the
>>> > list
>>> > of
>>> > available ports in your available sound cards, and hitting enter on
>>> > the
>>> > one
>>> > you'd like.
>>> > I say, try, this, because, it's the very first itteration of this
>> feature,
>>> > and, well all I can tell you from my own personal experience having
>>> > just
>>> > tested it here on my system, is, it doesn't work for me!
>>> > even closing and restarting jaws, even though it shows a checkmark in
>> that
>>> > menu when I go back in there, next to the sound card/audio device I
>>> > want
>>> > it
>>> > to use, it's definitely not being output from that device!
>>> >
>>> > Now of course I don't know whether this is something in my local
>>> > system
>>> > here, I presume so for surely they couldn't release it if it plain
>> didn't
>>> > work, but, as I say, my experience today was here it didn't.
>>> >
>>> > So, there's a more techy "back end," way, of forcing jaws to use the
>>> > soundcard you want it to use. and this does work for me under windows
>> xp,
>>> > it's what I use to make it happen. and it'll obviously also work for
>> jaws
>>> > versions earlier than 10.
>>> >
>>> > now when I say this, i add the important following caveats!
>>> > 1. this is using windows xp. if you've got windows vista installed,
>> which
>>> > you may well have since you mention it as a new pc, then this might
>>> > not
>>> > work either! and you may have to get your kind friend around for you
>>> > who
>>> > suggests such gymnastics as she/he has, and ask them to help you out
>> with
>>> > that.
>>> > 2. this is something in my view, that you don't wanna mess with alone,
>>> > since
>>> > if you mess it up, you might get yourself into a situation of having
>>> > no
>>> > speech output from jaws
>>> > at all, if your speech synth is misdirected to some audio device that
>>> > doesn't exist or whatever. So I caution you to have sighted help
>>> > around
>>> > before attempting any of this.
>>> > The following instructions may thus only be valid for a windows xp
>>> > installation.
>>> >
>>> > the back end way which we've done this for years is:
>>> > 1. open my computer, go to program files, then freedom scientific,
>>> > (i.e.
>>> > not
>>> > freedom scientific installation information,)
>>> > then into the folder called jaws, (i.e. not "runTime jaws, just jaws,"
>>> > then
>>> > into the version of jaws you have installed, i.e. 9.0, 10.0 etc.
>>> >
>>> > 2. hit alt+v, then l, to insure your list is in an upDown
>>> > configuration,
>>> > and
>>> > not in multiple columns across the screen.
>>> >
>>> > 3. hit alt+v, then i, for arrange icons, then see if, "name,"
>>> > identifies
>> a
>>> > check mark next to it. if it does, hit alt key to dismiss the menu and
>>> > leave
>>> > alone. if not, hit enter on name, such that the list is displayed in
>> name
>>> > order, and not some other order.
>>> >
>>> > 4. type the letters, j f, quickly, to jump to the files starting with
>>> > those
>>> > letters.
>>> > now, here's where things can get kinda messy.
>>> > hopefully, although windows doesn't ship this way by default, you have
>>> > altered the settings such that you will hear the file extensions, i.e.
>> the
>>> > 3
>>> > character part after the period in every file name, which helps denote
>> to
>>> > windows, what file type each file is.
>>> > now there are multiple files in here beginning withi the letters jfw,
>> you
>>> > want the one called jfw.ini. now if you don't have extentions
>>> > enabled,
>>> > then
>>> > you may be in the unpleasant situation of only being informed that all
>>> > 3
>>> > of
>>> > the first files in alphabetical order, all speak simply as, jfw.
>>> > However, they are not the same. in my list here, the first is jfw.enu,
>> the
>>> > second is jfw.exe, and the third, is the one you want, jfw.ini.
>>> >
>>> > 5. hit enter on jfw.ini, and hopefully it will have notepad as the
>>> > default
>>> > word processor to handle ini files,
>>> > and open it in that program. if it comes up with a box indicating it
>>> > doesn't
>>> > know how to handle these, then try choosing that you want it to open
>>> > in
>>> > notepad. instructions how to do this beyond the scope of this
>>> > document.
>>> >
>>> > 6. if you've got the right file, you should see lines like the
>> following:
>>> > [Options]
>>> > ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a
>>> > firewall
>>> > ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>>> > ; JAWS starts. This setting is off by default and is ignored when
>>> > JAWS
>>> > ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>>> > FirewallCheck=0
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > note that some lines begin with semi colons in here, they are lines
>> which
>>> > are comments, and don't get processed by windows as valid compile
>>> > lines,
>>> > just like in script manager.
>>> > this is handy to know if you wanna have multiple lines, and switch
>>> > them
>> on
>>> > or off from being processed by placing semi colons at their far left
>> hand
>>> > ends.
>>> >
>>> > also note that sections in here, are denoted by being surrounded with
>>> > brackets. like
>>> > [options] [
>>> >
>>> > [Synthesizers]
>>> >
>>> > etc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 7. scroll down until you find the section called
>>> > [Synthesizers]
>>> > you should see in here, lines like:
>>> > Synth1Name=eloq
>>> > Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>>> > Synth1Driver=eloq
>>> >
>>> > 8. now, presuming you are just using default settings and eloquence as
>>> > your
>>> > main synth, and thus utilizing synth1 settings here,
>>> > just above the lines starting with synth2, make a blank line by
>>> > hitting
>>> > home
>>> > on that line then hitting enter, then up arrowing again such that your
>>> > over
>>> > the blank line, just below the line
>>> > Synth1Driver=eloq.
>>> >
>>> > 9. now what we need to do here is paste in a line like the following,
>> but
>>> > with the name of the sound card you want to force jaws to use after
>>> > the
>>> > words,
>>> >
>>> > Synth1Port=
>>> >
>>> > but exactly, as displayed in sounds and audio devices in control
>>> > pannel,
>>> > in
>>> > the, "audio" tab.
>>> >
>>> > . given your message of what looks like three sound cards/audio
>>> > devices
>>> > your system currently has installed,, if you wanted jaws to use the
>> sound
>>> > max audio device for example, you might try the following line:
>>> >
>>> > Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > now this is assuming, that this is the way this audio device appears
>>> > in
>>> > the
>>> > above place on your system, as taken from what you've posted about it.
>> but
>>> > I
>>> > can't guarantee this will be the case of course.
>>> >
>>> > then hit control+s to save, and, as I say, insuring you have sighted
>> help
>>> > about, in case this fails totally and you lose speech, quit and
>>> > restart
>>> > jaws. and see if it now comes out the sound max digital audio device.
>>> > I hope this helps.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:13 AM
>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> The hardware that you have to use with ScratchLive acts as the sound
>> card
>>> >> for the music and the regular sound card handles Jaws.
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
>>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately. I am
>> just
>>> >> > curious. If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want
>>> >> > to
>>> > use
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > second sound card anyway? I thought most blind DJs typically
>> directed
>>> >> > JAWS
>>> >> > to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the
>>> > music.
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to
>> headphones
>>> >> > would be the typical solution. This should certainly eliminate the
>> DJ
>>> >> > program from distorting JAWS.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or
>> the
>>> >> > situation.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Don Marang
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
>>> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your
>>> >> >> puter?
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> Ann, what have you got.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>>> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I
>> have
>>> >> >>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem
>> with
>>> >> >> fuzzy
>>> >> >>> speech.
>>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>>> >> >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>>> >> >>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's
>>> >> >>> > comments
>>> >> >>> > who
>>> >> >>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,",
>> do
>>> > you
>>> >> >>> > mean
>>> >> >>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you
>>> >> >>> > saying
>>> >> >>> > you
>>> >> >>> > cannot
>>> >> >>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live
>> software
>>> >> >>> > program?
>>> >> >>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>>> >> >>> > man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear
>> what
>>> >> >>> > your
>>> >> >>> > talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list
>>> >> >>> > posts
>>> >> >>> > can
>>> >> >>> > we
>>> >> >>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal,"
>>> >> >>> > and
>>> >> >>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>>> >> >>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech
>>> >> >>> > synthesizer
>>> >> >>> > are
>>> >> >>> > you
>>> >> >>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be
>>> >> >>> > made
>>> >> >>> > to
>>> >> >>> > pipe
>>> >> >>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though
>> to
>>> > me
>>> >> >>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible
>> performance
>>> >> >> usage
>>> >> >>> > it
>>> >> >>> > seems to require.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found
>>> >> >>> > something
>>> > quite
>>> >> >> odd
>>> >> >>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer
>>> >> >>> > systems.
>>> >> >>> > Glen
>>> >> >>> > from
>>> >> >>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to
>>> >> >>> > some
>>> > list
>>> >> >>> > about
>>> >> >>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to
>> the
>>> >> >> bottom
>>> >> >>> > of what might be going on.
>>> >> >>> > Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my
>>> >> >>> > 98
>>> >> >> machine,
>>> >> >>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum
>> sound
>>> >> >>> > card
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >>> > think it is,
>>> >> >>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it
>>> >> >>> > simply
>>> > did
>>> >> >>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max
>>> >> >>> > digital
>>> > audio
>>> >> >>> > sound
>>> >> >>> > card.
>>> >> >>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the
>>> >> >>> > xp
>>> > box,
>>> >> >>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all
>>> >> >>> > the
>>> > same
>>> >> >> nice
>>> >> >>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present,
>>> >> >>> > when
>>> >> >>> > running
>>> >> >>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the
>> end,
>>> > was
>>> >> >>> > that
>>> >> >>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max
>>> >> >>> > drivers,
>>> >> >> handled
>>> >> >>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering
>> of
>>> > the
>>> >> >>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>>> >> >>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound
>>> >> >>> > card,
>>> >> >>> > was
>>> >> >>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz,
>>> >> >>> > actually
>>> >> >> seemingly
>>> >> >>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced,
>> but
>>> > did
>>> >> >> so
>>> >> >>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>>> >> >>> > undesirable,
>>> >> >>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that
>> naturally
>>> >> >>> > tends
>>> >> >>> > to
>>> >> >>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully
>>> >> >>> > filtered
>> to
>>> >> >> remove
>>> >> >>> > those.
>>> >> >>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>>> >> >>> > eloquence
>>> >> >>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to
>>> >> >>> > be
>>> >> >>> > output
>>> >> >>> > at
>>> >> >>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end
>> when
>>> >> >>> > compared
>>> >> >>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence,
>> which
>>> >> >>> > I
>>> >> >> think
>>> >> >>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to
>> 22khz,
>>> >> >>> > and
>>> >> >>> > jaws
>>> >> >>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>>> >> >>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple
>> weeks,
>>> > to
>>> >> >> do
>>> >> >>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>>> >> >> "fuzzyness,"
>>> >> >>> > and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to
>>> > describe,
>>> >> >> is
>>> >> >>> > a
>>> >> >>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds
>>> >> >>> > more
>>> >> >> like
>>> >> >>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital
>> artifacts
>>> >> >> thrown
>>> >> >>> > in on top.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess
>> that
>>> >> >>> > the
>>> >> >>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which
>>> >> >>> > is
>>> >> >>> > forcing
>>> >> >>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled
>>> >> >>> > to
>>> >> >> 22.khz,
>>> >> >>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on
>>> > their
>>> >> >>> > puters
>>> >> >>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without
>>> > seeking
>>> >> >>> > to
>>> >> >>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's
>>> >> >>> > just
>> a
>>> >> >> guess.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>>> >> >>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied
>> to
>>> >> >> Jeff's
>>> >> >>> > message.
>>> >> >>> >> Hi,
>>> >> >>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter
>>> >> >>> >> on
>>> >> >>> >> Scratch
>>> >> >>> > Live
>>> >> >>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to
>>> >> >>> >> unload
>>> > and
>>> >> >>> > restart
>>> >> >>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio
>>> >> >>> >> station.
>>> > Fuzz
>>> >> >>> > sound
>>> >> >>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>> >> >>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and
>>> > downloaded
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >>> >> saved
>>> >> >>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder
>>> >> >>> >> which
>>> >> >>> >> had
>>> > a
>>> >> >>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista,
>>> >> >>> >> Vista64,
>>> >> >>> >> and
>>> >> >>> >> XP
>>> >> >>> > were
>>> >> >>> >> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were
>>> >> >>> >> sub
>>> >> >> folders.
>>> >> >>> > I
>>> >> >>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather
>> than
>>> >> >> custom.
>>> >> >>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus.
>>> >> >>> >> I
>>> >> >>> >> use
>>> >> >> Jaws
>>> >> >>> > key
>>> >> >>> >> and nothing speaks.
>>> >> >>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>> >> >>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>>> >> >>> >> Ann
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> __________
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>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > __________
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>>> >> >>>
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>>> >> >
>>> >>
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