[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
- From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 00:08:31 -0400
there in the manual
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From: Ann Medlar
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:25 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
You mentioned some key strokes; could you give me a couple key strokes to
get started? Where did you learn these key strokes?
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:45 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems. I have
> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem with
> fuzzy
> speech.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>> Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's comments who
>> know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,", do you
>> mean
>> you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor? and are you saying you
>> cannot
>> read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live software
>> program?
>> as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>> man that does seem very strange. I wish I could actually hear what your
>> talking about here. we can't have attachments to the list posts can we
>> everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal," and
>> "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>> I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer are you
>> Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be made to
>> pipe
>> it's output through a number of differing synthesizers. Though to me
>> eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible performance usage
>> it
>> seems to require.
>>
>> now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something quite
>> odd
>> with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer systems. Glen
>> from
>> FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to some list
>> about
>> it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to the
>> bottom
>> of what might be going on.
>> Being an audio man/musician myself, my claim was, that on my 98 machine,
>> fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum sound card I
>> think it is,
>> eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it simply did
>> absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital audio
>> sound
>> card.
>> And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the xp box,
>> through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the same
>> nice
>> top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present, when
>> running
>> jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>>
>> What I think we established, might, have been going on in the end, was
>> that
>> the issue had something to do with the way the sound max drivers, handled
>> the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering of the
>> eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>> Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card, was
>> actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
>> seemingly
>> to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced, but did so
>> using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>> undesirable,
>> fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that naturally tends
>> to
>> occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered to
>> remove
>> those.
>> whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the eloquence
>> alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to be output
>> at
>> that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end when
>> compared
>> to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence, which I
>> think
>> we determined might also have been up sampling the output to 22khz, and
>> jaws
>> through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>> Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple weeks, to do
>> any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>> "fuzzyness,"
>> and, "off-station," sound of jaws/eloquence your seeking to describe, is
>> a
>> drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds more like
>> it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital artifacts
>> thrown
>> in on top.
>>
>> I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess that the
>> scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is forcing
>> everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled to 22.khz,
>> not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on their
>> puters
>> of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without seeking to
>> properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's just a
>> guess.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>>> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied to Jeff's
>> message.
>>> Hi,
>>> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on Scratch
>> Live
>>> it sounds like Jaws is off station. I press insert+F4 to unload and
>> restart
>>> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station. Fuzz
>> sound
>>> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>>> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and downloaded and
>>> saved
>>> version 1.9 to my desktop. I then went to Serato folder which had a
>>> setup.exe, and a driver folder which contained Vista, Vista64, and XP
>> were
>>> sub folders. I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub folders.
>> I
>>> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather than
>>> custom.
>>> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus. I use Jaws
>> key
>>> and nothing speaks.
>>> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>> Ann
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