Indeed they do. If logic came into play, there would probably be no impulse buying, and my wallet would have a lot more money in it!
At 06:13 PM 12/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:
we are only human, but yes, emotions should not be a part of it but funny, emotions sell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. I can agree with this sentiment. At 03:04 PM 12/24/2007 -0600, you wrote: >still, features should only be excluded because of technical reasons >not emotional ones. Even if the icon could run skype there's nothing >saying that any user would have to use it. >I know people want the docking station and audible books I'll >probably use neither, but I don't want my preferences to limit a >device used by thousands of people. It's taken me some time to >realize that though. > > >David Poehlman wrote: >>hmm. skype is voip. well, never looked at it that way. Still, I >>think I'd rather have cell. >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:18 PM >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >> >>skype is the best thing since icq started text im software. skype never >>interupts me if i'm busy i just put myself in dnd mode. skype is >>basically like a phone on your computer, and voice is often better than >>text it actually conveys personality, shows people are more than a >>synthetic voice. voip is an amazing and cool technology and it's where >>voice communication is going. Marc said once he had a sip client working >>on the icon, I plan some time to set up a sip server and make my icon >>among all the other things it can do, a cordless phone. >> >>Chris G wrote: >>>umm, Skype is VOIP. >>>Same as a phone call. >>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0500, "David Poehlman" >>><poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>as far as I'm concerned, they can call or emal me. >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:48 PM >>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>>then you wouldn't launch it. a lot of businesses use skype to stay in >>>>communications with each other. >>>>it's a great productivity tool, it's not just for fun. >>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:45:26 -0600, Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>I wouldn't want Skype, either! I don't like to be interrupted when I >>>>>am doing something! >>>>>At 07:52 AM 12/24/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>>>>>For what reason do you not want skype? >>>>>> >>>>>>I never wrote that you personally had to make out with the feature, I >>>>>>just said that I would like it on the device. >>>>>> >>>>>>For what reason exactly would you not want those features? >>>>>> >>>>>>On 12/24/07, David Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>I don't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Shane D" <chatter8712@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:37 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I also want IM and Skype on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>The Icon does use Linux, but it uses an accessible version of Linux >>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>>Level Star/APH have developed. For this reason, it doesn't >>>>>>work with some >>>>>>>>programs such as Skype. We could have someone that knows the Icon >>>>>>>>very, >>>>>>>>very well try it out. If this was incorporated into the >>>>>>>>Icon/Braille+, >>>>>>>>they >>>>>>>>would have to get read of the music player that already exists, and >>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>>would require a lot of development, and a lot of confusion for new >>>>>>>>users. >>>>>>>>This would be a very cool thing to have, though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry >>>>>>>>Matheny >>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:10 PM >>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Why couldn't the mplayer text based Linux media player that is >>>>>>>>similar to >>>>>>>>Winamp be compiled to work on the Icon? Then you could play whatever >>>>>>>>file >>>>>>>>format you wanted. >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:01 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And if it could just do power points, spread sheets, and data bases >>>>>>>>>for work and school, and ability to listen to videos for fun! >>>>>>>>>I agree. This device is already better than the pacmate and the >>>>>>>>>Braille Note! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D >>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:48 PM >>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And while we're at it, let's just ask Levelstar to let us search >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>US CIA databases too! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This thing will be the best PDA outside of China! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>And wma! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:30 PM >>>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>True. Maybe someone at levelstar can get in touch with the amazon >>>>>>>>>>people. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>While we're at it, let's make it play M4P songs from iTunes! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Katey Glass <kateyglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>I totally agree having access to Kindle books would be >>>>>>>>>>>wonderful! >>>>>>>>>>>Just not sure if they would work on our Icons. There is a >>>>>>>>>>>particular book which is not on Bookshare that is in Kindle >>>>>>>>>>>format >>>>>>>>>>>that I would love >>>>>>>>>>to read! >>>>>>>>>>>Katey >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are >>>>>>>>>>>not going to be around forever. -- GEORGE CARLIN >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Visit MySpace page at: www.myspace.com/katey0968 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Kevin Jones >>>>>>>>>>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:21 AM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> speaking of amazon, it would be cool if the i con could >>>>>>use the new >>>>>>>>>>> kindle format the kindle is a new e-book reader from amazon >>>>>>>>>>>they >>>>>>>>>>>have >>>>>>>>>>> 90000 titles I know we have bookshare but there may be things >>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>kindle >>>>>>>>>>> has bookshare doesnt and e-books are cheaper than real >>>>>>books in the >>>>>>>>>>> store. The kindle and the e-paper from sony are bringing to >>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>sighted >>>>>>>>>>> what the roadrunner bookport bookcourier and icon have >>>>>>given us for >>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>>> decade. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Shane D wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > Just use the amazon.com MP3 store from the browser. (Haven't >>>>>>>>>>>tried >>>>>>>>>it) >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > amazonmp3.com >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On 12/22/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> I wish that there was some way to have a music store >>>>>>>>>>>online, >>>>>>>>>>>and we could >>>>>>>>>>> >> pay $20 a month and download 50 songs to the Icon or >>>>>>>>>>>Braille >>>>>>>>>>>Plus. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Chase Crispin >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> >> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>> >> musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:48 PM >>>>>>>>>>> >> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> What would be cool is if they had WMA support or iTunes >>>>>>>>>>>music >>>>>>>>>>>support in the >>>>>>>>>>> >> braille plusses. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:03:50 -0500, Shane D wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Yeah. >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 12/20/07, Kevin Jones <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> no push and release status then a number ye that's the >>>>>>>>>>>way >>>>>>>>>>>to go >>>>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> could do it with 1 finger >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Shane D wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> If you mean hit status once, release, and then press >>>>>>>>>>>number, I >>>>>>>>>>like >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> it. If you have to hold both, I would hate to do that if >>>>>>>>>>>I >>>>>>>>>>>bought one. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 12/20/07, CB <cnoc78@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I agree. I truly like this idea. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:28 AM >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future >>>>>>>>>>>update. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> because this is much more efficient the hold-status >>>>>>>>>>>key >>>>>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>only >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> efficient >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> for the top item or 2 and actually status and a number >>>>>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>>>more >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> efficient than even the top item in hold-status mode, >>>>>>>>>>>both in >>>>>>>>>>key >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> presses and in time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> PAMELA RADER wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why not just use the Mocve Up or Down option and move >>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>items >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that menu in the order you want them? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> American Printing House For The Blind >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1839 Frankfort Ave. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Louisville, KY 40206 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx 12/20/07 12:16PM >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like a mode where you could say press status >>>>>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>>number >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> would give you up to 12 using the star and number >>>>>>>>>>>keys >>>>>>>>>>>pieces of info. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you could press status 2 and it would tell you >>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>>>time >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there could be a way of selecting which pieces of >>>>>>>>>>>status >>>>>>>>>>>info >>>>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wanted per program and you could move them around. >>>>>>>>>>>Maybe >>>>>>>>>>pressing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> status 1 could >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the same as now if you just press status, holding >>>>>>>>>>>down >>>>>>>>>>>status >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> still >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> behave as it does now. If you really wanted more than >>>>>>>>>>>12 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> selections you could make the number give you the >>>>>>>>>>>second >>>>>>>>>list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then you could press status number 3 or something. >>>>>>>>>>>What >>>>>>>>>>>do the rest of >>>>>>>>>>> >> you think? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Irwin Hott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to see an easier way to get the time >>>>>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>>>>an >>>>>>>>>>option >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> time to give seconds. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>> -Shane >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>> CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>> AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>Sandy Licht >>>>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14. >>>>>For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to >>>>>prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. >>>>>Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen >>>>>to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your >>>>>heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring >>>>>you back from captivity. >>>>> Sandy Licht Jeremiah 29:11 - 14. For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity.
Sandy Licht Jeremiah 29:11 - 14.For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity.