Hi all, and happy New Year. I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Certainly the things that are currently on the drawing board will take some time, but I would like to see them implemented and some glaring bugs fixed ahead of the great ideas I'm seeing on this list. Understanding the difficulty of creating and releasing upgrades, I hope they will come speedily, and in our time. (Chuckle, I think.) Mindy Jacobsen On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:57:34 -0600, denise avant wrote: >hello, >i would like to see the tings that were promised initially with this >unit >before any further enhancements, not saying whether there ay are good or >bad. i first saw the icon, now also the bp in 2006, and it had been in >testing at that time. i i've heard about a docking station, audible >support, >nls and support for braille displays, the ladder which i think is >critical >to this unit's success. just me though. but at the end of 2007, none of >the >above has been implimented, and it seems there is no firm date for >either. i >really like the icon, but it will only become the p.d.a. of choice if >its >development is as promised. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Jones >Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:04 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. > >still, features should only be excluded because of technical reasons not >emotional ones. Even if the icon could run skype there's nothing saying >that >any user would have to use it. >I know people want the docking station and audible books I'll probably >use >neither, but I don't want my preferences to limit a device used by >thousands >of people. It's taken me some time to realize that though. > > >David Poehlman wrote: >>hmm. skype is voip. well, never looked at it that way. Still, I >>think I'd rather have cell. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:18 PM >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >> >> >>skype is the best thing since icq started text im software. skype >>never interupts me if i'm busy i just put myself in dnd mode. skype is >>basically like a phone on your computer, and voice is often better >>than text it actually conveys personality, shows people are more than >>a synthetic voice. voip is an amazing and cool technology and it's >>where voice communication is going. Marc said once he had a sip client >>working on the icon, I plan some time to set up a sip server and make >>my icon among all the other things it can do, a cordless phone. >> >> >>Chris G wrote: >>>umm, Skype is VOIP. >>>Same as a phone call. >>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0500, "David Poehlman" >>><poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>as far as I'm concerned, they can call or emal me. >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Chris G" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:48 PM >>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>>then you wouldn't launch it. a lot of businesses use skype to stay >>>>in communications with each other. >>>>it's a great productivity tool, it's not just for fun. >>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:45:26 -0600, Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>I wouldn't want Skype, either! I don't like to be interrupted when >>>>>I am doing something! >>>>>At 07:52 AM 12/24/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>>>>>For what reason do you not want skype? >>>>>> >>>>>>I never wrote that you personally had to make out with the >>>>>>feature, I just said that I would like it on the device. >>>>>> >>>>>>For what reason exactly would you not want those features? >>>>>> >>>>>>On 12/24/07, David Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>I don't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Shane D" <chatter8712@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:37 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I also want IM and Skype on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>The Icon does use Linux, but it uses an accessible version of >>>>>>>>Linux that Level Star/APH have developed. For this reason, it >>>>>>>>doesn't >>>>>>work with some >>>>>>>>programs such as Skype. We could have someone that knows the >>>>>>>>Icon very, very well try it out. If this was incorporated into >>>>>>>>the Icon/Braille+, they would have to get read of the music >>>>>>>>player that already exists, and that would require a lot of >>>>>>>>development, and a lot of confusion for new users. >>>>>>>>This would be a very cool thing to have, though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry >>>>>>>>Matheny >>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:10 PM >>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Why couldn't the mplayer text based Linux media player that is >>>>>>>>similar to Winamp be compiled to work on the Icon? Then you >>>>>>>>could play whatever file format you wanted. >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:01 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And if it could just do power points, spread sheets, and data >>>>>>>>>bases for work and school, and ability to listen to videos for fun! >>>>>>>>>I agree. This device is already better than the pacmate and >>>>>>>>>the Braille Note! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D >>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:48 PM >>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And while we're at it, let's just ask Levelstar to let us >>>>>>>>>search the US CIA databases too! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This thing will be the best PDA outside of China! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: And wma! Chase Crispin -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:30 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. True. Maybe someone at levelstar can get in touch with the amazon people. While we're at it, let's make it play M4P songs from iTunes! On 12/23/07, Katey Glass <kateyglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >I totally agree having access to Kindle books would be >wonderful! >Just not sure if they would work on our Icons. There is a >particular book which is not on Bookshare that is in Kindle >format that I would love to read! >Katey > >Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they >are not going to be around forever. -- GEORGE CARLIN > >Visit MySpace page at: www.myspace.com/katey0968 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kevin Jones >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:21 AM >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. > > >speaking of amazon, it would be cool if the i con could >>>>>>use the new >kindle format the kindle is a new e-book reader from amazon >they have >90000 titles I know we have bookshare but there may be >things the >>>>>>>>>kindle >has bookshare doesnt and e-books are cheaper than real >>>>>>books in the >store. The kindle and the e-paper from sony are bringing to >the >>>>>>>>>sighted >what the roadrunner bookport bookcourier and icon have >>>>>>given us for >a >decade. > > >Shane D wrote: >>Just use the amazon.com MP3 store from the browser. >(Haven't tried >>>>>>>>>it) >> >>amazonmp3.com >> >>On 12/22/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>I wish that there was some way to have a music store >online, and we could >>>pay $20 a month and download 50 songs to the Icon or >Braille Plus. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Chase Crispin >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:48 PM >>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>> >>>What would be cool is if they had WMA support or iTunes >music support in the >>>braille plusses. >>> >>>On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:03:50 -0500, Shane D wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Yeah. >>>> >>>>On 12/20/07, Kevin Jones <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>no push and release status then a number ye that's the >way to go you >>>>>could do it with 1 finger >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Shane D wrote: >>>>>>If you mean hit status once, release, and then press >number, I like >>>>>>it. If you have to hold both, I would hate to do that >if I bought one. >>>>>> >>>>>>On 12/20/07, CB <cnoc78@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>I agree. I truly like this idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:28 AM >>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future >update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>because this is much more efficient the hold-status >key is >>>>>>>>>only >>>>>efficient >>>>>>>>for the top item or 2 and actually status and a >number is more >>>>>>>>efficient than even the top item in hold-status >mode, both in key >>>>>>>>presses and in time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>PAMELA RADER wrote: >>>>>>>>>Why not just use the Mocve Up or Down option and >move the >>>>>>>>>items >>>>>>>>>around >>>>>on >>>>>>>>>that menu in the order you want them? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>American Printing House For The Blind >>>>>>>>>1839 Frankfort Ave. >>>>>>>>>Louisville, KY 40206 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx 12/20/07 12:16PM >>> >>>>>>>>>I would like a mode where you could say press >status and a number >>>>>>>>>and >>>>>it >>>>>>>>>would give you up to 12 using the star and number >keys pieces of info. >>>>>>>>>Then you could press status 2 and it would tell >you the time >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>there could be a way of selecting which pieces of >status info you >>>>>>>>>wanted per program and you could move them around. >Maybe pressing >>>>>>>>>status 1 could >>>>>be >>>>>>>>>the same as now if you just press status, holding >down status >>>>>>>>>could >>>>>still >>>>>>>>>behave as it does now. If you really wanted more >than >12 >>>>>>>>>selections you could make the number give you the >second >>>>>>>>>list >>>>>>>>>then you could press status number 3 or something. >What >do the rest of >>>you think? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Irwin Hott wrote: I would like to see an easier way to get the time >and an option for >>>>>the time to give seconds. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>-Shane >>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>> >>> >> >> > -- -Shane Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com AIM: inhaddict Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>Sandy Licht >>>>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14. >>>>>For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to >>>>>prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. >>>>>Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will >>>>>listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with >>>>>all your heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and >>>>>will bring you back from captivity. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>