[icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:13:09 -0500
we are only human, but yes, emotions should not be a part of it but funny,
emotions sell.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
I can agree with this sentiment.
At 03:04 PM 12/24/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>still, features should only be excluded because of technical reasons
>not emotional ones. Even if the icon could run skype there's nothing
>saying that any user would have to use it.
>I know people want the docking station and audible books I'll
>probably use neither, but I don't want my preferences to limit a
>device used by thousands of people. It's taken me some time to
>realize that though.
>
>
>David Poehlman wrote:
>>hmm. skype is voip. well, never looked at it that way. Still, I
>>think I'd rather have cell.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:18 PM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>
>>skype is the best thing since icq started text im software. skype never
>>interupts me if i'm busy i just put myself in dnd mode. skype is
>>basically like a phone on your computer, and voice is often better than
>>text it actually conveys personality, shows people are more than a
>>synthetic voice. voip is an amazing and cool technology and it's where
>>voice communication is going. Marc said once he had a sip client working
>>on the icon, I plan some time to set up a sip server and make my icon
>>among all the other things it can do, a cordless phone.
>>
>>Chris G wrote:
>>>umm, Skype is VOIP.
>>>Same as a phone call.
>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0500, "David Poehlman"
>>><poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>as far as I'm concerned, they can call or emal me.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:48 PM
>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>then you wouldn't launch it. a lot of businesses use skype to stay in
>>>>communications with each other.
>>>>it's a great productivity tool, it's not just for fun.
>>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:45:26 -0600, Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I wouldn't want Skype, either! I don't like to be interrupted when I
>>>>>am doing something!
>>>>>At 07:52 AM 12/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>>For what reason do you not want skype?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I never wrote that you personally had to make out with the feature, I
>>>>>>just said that I would like it on the device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For what reason exactly would you not want those features?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 12/24/07, David Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>I don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Shane D" <chatter8712@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:37 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also want IM and Skype on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>The Icon does use Linux, but it uses an accessible version of Linux
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>Level Star/APH have developed. For this reason, it doesn't
>>>>>>work with some
>>>>>>>>programs such as Skype. We could have someone that knows the Icon
>>>>>>>>very,
>>>>>>>>very well try it out. If this was incorporated into the
>>>>>>>>Icon/Braille+,
>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>would have to get read of the music player that already exists, and
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>would require a lot of development, and a lot of confusion for new
>>>>>>>>users.
>>>>>>>>This would be a very cool thing to have, though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry
>>>>>>>>Matheny
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Why couldn't the mplayer text based Linux media player that is
>>>>>>>>similar to
>>>>>>>>Winamp be compiled to work on the Icon? Then you could play whatever
>>>>>>>>file
>>>>>>>>format you wanted.
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:01 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And if it could just do power points, spread sheets, and data bases
>>>>>>>>>for work and school, and ability to listen to videos for fun!
>>>>>>>>>I agree. This device is already better than the pacmate and the
>>>>>>>>>Braille Note!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And while we're at it, let's just ask Levelstar to let us search
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>US CIA databases too!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This thing will be the best PDA outside of China!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>And wma!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>True. Maybe someone at levelstar can get in touch with the amazon
>>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>While we're at it, let's make it play M4P songs from iTunes!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Katey Glass <kateyglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>I totally agree having access to Kindle books would be
>>>>>>>>>>>wonderful!
>>>>>>>>>>>Just not sure if they would work on our Icons. There is a
>>>>>>>>>>>particular book which is not on Bookshare that is in Kindle
>>>>>>>>>>>format
>>>>>>>>>>>that I would love
>>>>>>>>>>to read!
>>>>>>>>>>>Katey
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are
>>>>>>>>>>>not going to be around forever. -- GEORGE CARLIN
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Visit MySpace page at: www.myspace.com/katey0968
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Kevin Jones
>>>>>>>>>>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> speaking of amazon, it would be cool if the i con could
>>>>>>use the new
>>>>>>>>>>> kindle format the kindle is a new e-book reader from amazon
>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>> 90000 titles I know we have bookshare but there may be things
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>kindle
>>>>>>>>>>> has bookshare doesnt and e-books are cheaper than real
>>>>>>books in the
>>>>>>>>>>> store. The kindle and the e-paper from sony are bringing to
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>sighted
>>>>>>>>>>> what the roadrunner bookport bookcourier and icon have
>>>>>>given us for
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>> decade.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shane D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > Just use the amazon.com MP3 store from the browser. (Haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>tried
>>>>>>>>>it)
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > amazonmp3.com
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > On 12/22/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> I wish that there was some way to have a music store
>>>>>>>>>>>online,
>>>>>>>>>>>and we could
>>>>>>>>>>> >> pay $20 a month and download 50 songs to the Icon or
>>>>>>>>>>>Braille
>>>>>>>>>>>Plus.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>> >> musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> What would be cool is if they had WMA support or iTunes
>>>>>>>>>>>music
>>>>>>>>>>>support in the
>>>>>>>>>>> >> braille plusses.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:03:50 -0500, Shane D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Yeah.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 12/20/07, Kevin Jones <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> no push and release status then a number ye that's the
>>>>>>>>>>>way
>>>>>>>>>>>to go
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> could do it with 1 finger
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Shane D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> If you mean hit status once, release, and then press
>>>>>>>>>>>number, I
>>>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> it. If you have to hold both, I would hate to do that if
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>bought one.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 12/20/07, CB <cnoc78@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I agree. I truly like this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:28 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future
>>>>>>>>>>>update.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> because this is much more efficient the hold-status
>>>>>>>>>>>key
>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> efficient
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> for the top item or 2 and actually status and a number
>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> efficient than even the top item in hold-status mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>both in
>>>>>>>>>>key
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> presses and in time.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> PAMELA RADER wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why not just use the Mocve Up or Down option and move
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>items
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that menu in the order you want them?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> American Printing House For The Blind
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1839 Frankfort Ave.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Louisville, KY 40206
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx 12/20/07 12:16PM >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like a mode where you could say press status
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> would give you up to 12 using the star and number
>>>>>>>>>>>keys
>>>>>>>>>>>pieces of info.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you could press status 2 and it would tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there could be a way of selecting which pieces of
>>>>>>>>>>>status
>>>>>>>>>>>info
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wanted per program and you could move them around.
>>>>>>>>>>>Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>pressing
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> status 1 could
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the same as now if you just press status, holding
>>>>>>>>>>>down
>>>>>>>>>>>status
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> behave as it does now. If you really wanted more than
>>>>>>>>>>>12
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> selections you could make the number give you the
>>>>>>>>>>>second
>>>>>>>>>list
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then you could press status number 3 or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>What
>>>>>>>>>>>do the rest of
>>>>>>>>>>> >> you think?
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Irwin Hott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to see an easier way to get the time
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>option
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> time to give seconds.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> -Shane
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>Sandy Licht
>>>>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14.
>>>>>For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to
>>>>>prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
>>>>>Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen
>>>>>to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your
>>>>>heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring
>>>>>you back from captivity.
>>>>>
Sandy Licht
Jeremiah 29:11 - 14.
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to
prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen
to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your
heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring
you back from captivity.
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