[HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost
- From: Richard Schiff <leicaman@xxxxxxx>
- To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:52:38 -0700
Unfortunately the top of my $$$ range is the Canon 5D MII and an good L lens.
Do you know if the Epson 3800 will print 16 bit?
From: fujifan@xxxxxxxxxxx: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [HUG ] Re: On the
subject of equipement costDate: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:27:02 -0600
I'm not sure what being married has to do with it, I am And if you want the
latest and greatest all the time it's gona cost you. IMO it'll be a few years
to out grow this back and if I need more megapixels I know I'll need newer
lenses. This will probably be the biggest back I put on the V system, after
this I think I'll need to move to the H system. BTW a new CFV goes for $9000,
A new H3DII 31MP kit can now be had for $17,000 and the Used H3D 39MP Kit's go
for about $18,000. These can be had on a lease/purchase so it's not out of
reach for most people, it's no different than a D3 at $5000 or a 1DsMkIII at
$8000. As for output I'm printing 16bit on a Canon IPF6100 it's far superior
to lightjet output.
Franc
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Schiff
To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost
Franc, The problem for most FA and hobbyists is that spend $10,000 over a
number of years on film and developing is doable for most... but getting that
much all at once for one back is not... especially in times like these... and
if you happen to be married. Fogetabodet... The truth is that what seems to you
now to be great digital image quality will look passe ever more quickly as
better and more expensive sensors are developed ever more quickly. Not to
mention the newer lenses and bodies that are required to use them and we
haven't even touched on the printers that will be required to take advantage of
the coming technologies. This will more and more ... like many other things
become a rich man's pursuit with the artist no longer able to create with these
new tools. for medium and large format at least, this is NOT a great thing.
From: fujifan@xxxxxxxxxxx: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [HUG ] Re: On the
subject of equipement costDate: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:04:16 -0600
Well, with Kodak's announcment that it has discontinued LF sheet film will the
MF be far behind?. As to MF digital, it is now in the hobbiests price range
with new backs in the $10,000 range and used ones about half of that. Consider
this, you've spent $$2000 on a body, $1200 on the 80mm, $1000 on a prism
finder, heck a 30mm CFi goes for over $5000, I don't think that $10,000 for a
CFV is out of line considering the technology and work involved in the
production of it. Obsolete? I don't think so superceeded yes but not obsolete
(un-useable). My phase H25 is 5 years old it's still available today the fellow
I purchased it from paid $27,000 USD for it new in Oct./03. I purchased it in
Apr./08 for $6700. it works perfect and it has been upgrade to current
software/firmware. I'll bet you paid more than that for your V system. Yes I
know it's alot for 1 piece of the system, but so is the 30mm
Franc
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Schiff
To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: [HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost
Bill, You said it. I high line pro in NYC can bill in a day what the best
digital body costs. It's also worth it for them as when they are on a fashion
shoot in the barbados the image can be streamed live to art directors and
clients and corrections can e made before the shutter is released. Everyone is
happy and no re-shoots. Unfortunately this cuts out about 85% of the market of
FA and hobby shooters Hasselblad used to have. They just can't afford the
stuff... and sometimes within a few months the stuff is obsolete with re-sale
value 1/2 of what it had been. The life cycle of digital detectors can now be
measured in months... and it's going to get shorter. New MF films are
continuing to come out and unlike 35mm MF will be around for quite a while as
hardly anyone can afford MF digital... It IS however only a matter of time
before someone comes out with a high quality MF back that's cheap enough to be
affordable by the rest of us...
> From: bs.pearce@xxxxxxx> To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [HUG ] On the
> subject of equipement cost> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:54:19 -0500> > I
> thought I had posted this some time ago in July, but perhaps not.> > In June,
> I went to Italy and took a photo workshop. We were driving in the > Tuscan
> countryside, and pulled over to get photos. A large mercedes pullled > up
> behind us, and into one of the long tree lined roads to a farmhouse. A > man
> got out and set up a tripod and put on it one of the Fujiblads. Several > of
> the workshop participants were nearby, and went for a look.> > The man was
> shooting for stock. He had, along with the standard outfit, > essentially the
> entire catalog of digtital H stuff. One case probably held > more in cash
> value than the car.> > It turns out that he spends about two months in
> Tuscany every year shooting > stock. The other ten months, he lives in
> Boston, where he is a lawyer.> > That's who can afford this new stuff.> >
> Bill Pearce > > >
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