[HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost

  • From: "Franc Flipsen" <fujifan@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:28:39 -0600

I was at my dealer yesterday and he told me that he received notice from Kodak 
that his order for 8x10 sheet film was canceled because they have no stock and 
it will no longer be produced, and production of 4x5 will stop at the end of 
the month. 

Franc


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Justin F. Knotzke 
  To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:44 PM
  Subject: [HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost



  Kodak is no longer making LF ? LF as in 8x10 or 4x5 as well ? When was this 
announced ?

  J


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  From: "Franc Flipsen" <fujifan@xxxxxxxxx>
  Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:04:16 -0600
  To: <hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost


  Well, with Kodak's announcment that it has discontinued LF sheet film will 
the MF be far behind?. As to MF digital, it is now in the hobbiests price range 
with new backs in the $10,000 range and used ones about half of that.  Consider 
this,  you've spent $$2000 on a body, $1200 on the 80mm, $1000 on a prism 
finder, heck a 30mm CFi goes for over $5000, I don't think that $10,000 for a 
CFV is out of line considering the technology and work involved in the 
production of it.  Obsolete? I don't think so superceeded yes but not obsolete 
(un-useable). My phase H25 is 5 years old it's still available today the fellow 
I purchased it from paid $27,000 USD for it new in Oct./03. I purchased it in 
Apr./08 for $6700. it works perfect and it has been upgrade to current 
software/firmware.  I'll bet you paid more than that for your V system.  Yes I 
know it's alot for 1 piece of the system, but so is the 30mm

  Franc
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Richard Schiff 
    To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:16 AM
    Subject: [HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost


    Bill,
     
    You said it.  I high line pro in NYC can bill in a day what the best 
digital body costs.  It's also worth it for them as when they are on a fashion 
shoot in the barbados the image can be streamed live to art directors and 
clients and corrections can e made before the shutter is released.  Everyone is 
happy and no re-shoots.
     
    Unfortunately this cuts out about 85% of the market of FA and hobby 
shooters Hasselblad used to have.  They just can't afford the stuff... and 
sometimes within a few months the stuff is obsolete with re-sale value 1/2 of 
what it had been.  The life cycle of digital detectors can now be measured in 
months... and it's going to get shorter.  New MF films are continuing to come 
out and unlike 35mm MF will be around for quite a while as hardly anyone can 
afford MF digital... It IS however only a matter of time before someone comes 
out with a high quality MF back that's cheap enough to be affordable by the 
rest of us... 





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    > From: bs.pearce@xxxxxxx
    > To: hasselblad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > Subject: [HUG ] On the subject of equipement cost
    > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:54:19 -0500
    > 
    > I thought I had posted this some time ago in July, but perhaps not.
    > 
    > In June, I went to Italy and took a photo workshop. We were driving in 
the 
    > Tuscan countryside, and pulled over to get photos. A large mercedes 
pullled 
    > up behind us, and into one of the long tree lined roads to a farmhouse. A 
    > man got out and set up a tripod and put on it one of the Fujiblads. 
Several 
    > of the workshop participants were nearby, and went for a look.
    > 
    > The man was shooting for stock. He had, along with the standard outfit, 
    > essentially the entire catalog of digtital H stuff. One case probably 
held 
    > more in cash value than the car.
    > 
    > It turns out that he spends about two months in Tuscany every year 
shooting 
    > stock. The other ten months, he lives in Boston, where he is a lawyer.
    > 
    > That's who can afford this new stuff.
    > 
    > Bill Pearce 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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