The discounts are listed on line... My memory is that it was on the digital body + lens. It was a big discount in dollars... I believe it was the first and final death knoll ( sp?) for the S2. Whatever price they thought they could get, against the H Series, is now diminished, by a lot. Plus the market for new MF digital cameras is diminished because guys that wanted to buy a new MF camera, are now thinking.. I could get a H series for 40% less, or wait for the yet-to-be-released Leica S2 at a price they won't tell me. I think I will go with the bird in the hand... The S2 is a BIG opportunity waste. Boy, did I catch a load of you know what on the Leica list for that one.. Frank Filippone red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [HUG ] Re: On the subject of equipement cost Hasselblad sent an e-mail ten days ago about decreasing the cost of their equipment. (Probably the announced "up to 40% savings" will be on something like filters!) I sent this e-mail in response, but got no reply so far: Gary Todoroff