[guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
- From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:45:27 -0500
The vender never need comply. Now, what happens is interesting. The agency
buys the vender's product and says they'v ecome as close to complying as it
is possible to come end of story.
Johnnie Apple Seed
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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:35 PM
Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
Hi David,
Correct, and, ultimately, that means the vendor must comply if it wishes to
sell to the agency?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
> it is the agency which must comply.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:19 PM
> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> If a person who is deaf-blind or who has a significant hearing impairment
> in
> addition to blindness works for a government agency, is Microsoft's
> "solution" covered by 508?
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:09 PM
> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>
>
>> We raised this with microsoft before they put the thing out and they went
>> ahead with it anyway.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:59 PM
>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>
>>
>> This is one case in which I would consider there may be true
>> inaccessibility. If someone could not use any other physical output
>> medium
>> other than Braille, excluding by reasons of choice, then they are being
>> denied access to the MS Reader interface, and subsequently the .lit
>> format.
>>
>> I'll pass this on to Microsoft.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:15 PM
>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>
>>
>>> The sad thing is that there is no way to get braille of the lit files
>>> even
>>> with the plug in.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:11 PM
>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I were the presiding prosecutor, you'd be procecuted as would any
>>> other
>>> person violating drm.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:45 PM
>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> OK. Possibly true. When it comes to accessibility, I'm not afraid to
>> take
>>> liberties with that definition. If I got in to trouble over it, I would
>> not
>>> hesitate to use my blindness as a media/public relations tool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:42 PM
>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>
>>>
>>> > You need to read the drm documentation carefully. You cannot do
>> anything
>>> > you want with a copy of a book that you purchase that is in electronic
>>> > form
>>> > such as reverse engineer it. The book in this instance is a piece of
>>> > software and in order to accomplish what you want, you'd have to
>>> > reverse
>>> > engineer it.
>>> >
>>> > Johnnie Apple Seed
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:07 PM
>>> > Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi Will,
>>> >
>>> > Hmmm, well, legally, if I purchase a Microsoft E-book file, I can do
>>> > whatever it is I need to do in order to gain access, for my own
>>> > personal
>>> > use. What probably is not legal is for me to proceed to distribute
>>> > that
>>> > file to others. I find it amazing that MS Reader does not permit
>>> > printing.
>>> > Sighted people love to take on-screen info and send it to our printers
>> at
>>> > work right away. My employer spends lots of money on consumables for
>>> > printers!
>>> >
>>> > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:51 AM
>>> > Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hi;
>>> >>
>>> >> AFAIK, it doesn't allow printing. As an aside, I doubt the
>>> >> legitimacy
>> of
>>> >> using OCR seeing as the TTS plug-in is provided to make Reader
>>> >> accessible.
>>> >> I'm not a legal expert, but would imagine that this would only be
>>> >> permissible in situations where the TTS plug-in offered no output,
>>> >> such
>>> >> as
>>> >> .lit files composed of scanned images. I think this is slightly
>>> >> different
>>> >> in the UK, where there is no law governing accessibility of eBooks,
>>> >> and
>>> >> instead it's left up to the old laws governing photocopying of books,
>> in
>>> >> which OCR, or at least scanning, of a limited portion of a book is
>>> >> allowed.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am looking into the possibility of getting reader to work with at
>> least
>>> >> one of the popular screen readers with a friend from Microsoft.
>>> >> Hopefully
>>> >> something will come out of this.
>>> >>
>>> >> Will
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:12 PM
>>> >> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi Will and all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Does MS Reader permit you to print pages from books? If so, has
>> anyone
>>> >>> tried this with the virtual printer facilities of K1000 or OpenBook?
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:03 AM
>>> >>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Hi;
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I wouldn't like to say at the moment. The legality of this is
>> unsure.
>>> >> In
>>> >>> > the U.S. legislation exists that states it's legal to convert
>>> >>> > ebooks
>>> >>> > to
>>> >>> > another format if they are inaccessible, but the big question is,
>>> >>> > by
>>> >>> > providing a TTS plug-in for Reader, is the format considered
>>> >>> > accessible?
>>> >>> > I
>>> >>> > know in the UK, you can use OCR to store only a part of a book on
>> your
>>> >>> > computer, and this prohibits distribution or alteration of the
>>> >>> > content.
>>> >>> > Outside of the UK and US I don't know anything about the legality
>>> >>> > of
>>> >> this
>>> >>> > sort of situation, and I wouldn't like to offer advice that may
>>> >>> > mean
>>> >>> > you
>>> >>> > break the law and are subsequently open to prosicution.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I'm currently discussing the point with some folk from MS UK, who
>>> >>> > I
>>> >>> > suspect,
>>> >>> > being the format vendor, are in a position to make a judgement on
>> the
>>> >>> > legality. I'll post more when I hear something from MS.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Will
>>> >>> > Microsoft MVP (Visual Studio/VC++)
>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> > From: "Nektarios Mallas" <nmallas@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:47 PM
>>> >>> > Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>>> >>> > format.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> Thanks for this.
>>> >>> >> Do you know if there is any other way to extract the text from
>>> >>> >> the
>>> >> *.lit
>>> >>> >> file and read it in other standard programs?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Nektarios.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> >> From: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> >>> >> Behalf
>>> >>> >> Of Will Pearson
>>> >>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:55 PM
>>> >>> >> To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> >> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>> format.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hi;
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Whilst MS Reader isn't supported by any of the screen readers,
>> there
>>> >>> >> is
>>> >>> >> a plug in. Microsoft have provided a text to speech plug in for
>>> >>> >> Reader
>>> >>> >> that will read aloud the document. It's based on MS SAPI, and
>>> >>> >> uses
>>> >>> >> the
>>> >>> >> standard SAPI synth that ships with Windows. You can find a
>> download
>>> >>> >> for this from the Reader downloads page.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Will
>>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> >> From: "Nektarios Mallas" <nmallas@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:39 AM
>>> >>> >> Subject: [guispeak] Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> > Hello list.
>>> >>> >> > Is Microsoft ebook reader accessible by screen readers? Is
>>> >>> >> > there
>>> >>> >> > any
>>> >>> >> > other way to access a *.lit file and extract the text from it
>>> >>> >> > so
>>> >>> >> > you
>>> >>> >> > can read it with standard applications such as wordpad? Thanks.
>>> >>> >> > Nektarios.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
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