[guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
- From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:49:00 -0500
.lit and daisy are like apples and oranges. That's like converting an
untagged pdf file into accessible html.
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
Hi David,
Yes. DAISY also provides DRM functionality. Perhaps, one solution for
Microsoft would be a utility to convert from .lit to DAISY?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
> ms could go to daisy and ditch .lit.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:01 PM
> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>
>
> Hi Laura, David, Will and all,
>
> One Microsoft solution I would find acceptable at this point would be for
> Microsoft to securely provide a platform on which the .lit format could be
> incorporated in to assistive technology products. For instance, FS
> Reader,
> Victor Reader, and other software could then support the .lit format in a
> way that limits copying.
>
> Some secured PDF files can now be loaded in to Adobe Reader in a way that
> is
> accessible. It is not possible to save these files in alternate formats,
> and it is impossible to cut/copy and paste their contents. Though I don't
> like these restrictions, accessibility is now provided, so I support their
> implementation. Accessibility is provided while the content is still
> protected. The mainstream and assistive tech industries should be working
> together to insure accessibility. If legislation like Section 508 has to
> be
> used as the stick, then so be it.
>
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:35 PM
> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>
>
>> Can you set bookmarks?
>> Can you get a global navigation view of the book, as is possible with
>> VictorReader software?
>> Just curious.
>> Take care.
>> --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:16 PM
>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>
>>
>>> on the third point, you are not correct. You can move through the book
>>> by
>>> chapter, page and some other nav chunks.
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:13 PM
>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Will,
>>>
>>> As I understand it, TTS is extremely limited in at least the following
>>> ways:
>>> 1.
>>> Some books don't work with it.
>>> 2.
>>> Speech quality is sufficiently poor as to bring its practicality in to
>>> question.
>>> 3.
>>> It is just a straight read, with no capability to navigate through a
>>> book.
>>>
>>> Am I correct on these three points?
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:06 PM
>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Darrell;
>>>>
>>>> At the end of the day I'm an advocate for accessibility too, the number
>>>> of
>>>> bugs I've reported to Microsoft regarding accessibility of their
>>>> products,
>>>> especially Visual Studio, stands testament to that. However, I believe
>>>> breaking the law is one step too far, especially where there already
>>>> exists
>>>> a legal method of making something accessible, in this case the TTS
>>>> plug-in
>>>> for Reader. Whilst it may not be my method of choice, it is legal and
>>>> does
>>>> afford accessibility to the .lit format.
>>>>
>>>> Will
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:45 PM
>>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. Possibly true. When it comes to accessibility, I'm not afraid to
>>>> take
>>>>> liberties with that definition. If I got in to trouble over it, I
>>>>> would
>>>> not
>>>>> hesitate to use my blindness as a media/public relations tool.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > You need to read the drm documentation carefully. You cannot do
>>>> anything
>>>>> > you want with a copy of a book that you purchase that is in
>>>>> > electronic
>>>>> > form
>>>>> > such as reverse engineer it. The book in this instance is a piece
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > software and in order to accomplish what you want, you'd have to
>>>>> > reverse
>>>>> > engineer it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:07 PM
>>>>> > Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi Will,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hmmm, well, legally, if I purchase a Microsoft E-book file, I can do
>>>>> > whatever it is I need to do in order to gain access, for my own
>>>>> > personal
>>>>> > use. What probably is not legal is for me to proceed to distribute
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > file to others. I find it amazing that MS Reader does not permit
>>>>> > printing.
>>>>> > Sighted people love to take on-screen info and send it to our
>>>>> > printers
>>>> at
>>>>> > work right away. My employer spends lots of money on consumables
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > printers!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
>>>>> > Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
>>>>> > A+, CCNA, Network+!
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>>>>> > All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi
>>>>> > Freedom!
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:51 AM
>>>>> > Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> AFAIK, it doesn't allow printing. As an aside, I doubt the
>>>>> >> legitimacy
>>>> of
>>>>> >> using OCR seeing as the TTS plug-in is provided to make Reader
>>>>> >> accessible.
>>>>> >> I'm not a legal expert, but would imagine that this would only be
>>>>> >> permissible in situations where the TTS plug-in offered no output,
>>>>> >> such
>>>>> >> as
>>>>> >> .lit files composed of scanned images. I think this is slightly
>>>>> >> different
>>>>> >> in the UK, where there is no law governing accessibility of eBooks,
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> instead it's left up to the old laws governing photocopying of
>>>>> >> books,
>>>> in
>>>>> >> which OCR, or at least scanning, of a limited portion of a book is
>>>>> >> allowed.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am looking into the possibility of getting reader to work with at
>>>> least
>>>>> >> one of the popular screen readers with a friend from Microsoft.
>>>>> >> Hopefully
>>>>> >> something will come out of this.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Will
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:12 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>>>>> >> format.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Hi Will and all,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Does MS Reader permit you to print pages from books? If so, has
>>>> anyone
>>>>> >>> tried this with the virtual printer facilities of K1000 or
>>>>> >>> OpenBook?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
>>>>> >>> Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
>>>>> >>> A+, CCNA, Network+!
>>>>> >>> Check out high quality telecommunications services at
>>>>> >>> http://ld.net/?nu7i
>>>>> >>> All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi
>>>>> >>> Freedom!
>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:03 AM
>>>>> >>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>>>>> >>> format.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > Hi;
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > I wouldn't like to say at the moment. The legality of this is
>>>> unsure.
>>>>> >> In
>>>>> >>> > the U.S. legislation exists that states it's legal to convert
>>>>> >>> > ebooks
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >>> > another format if they are inaccessible, but the big question
>>>>> >>> > is,
>>>>> >>> > by
>>>>> >>> > providing a TTS plug-in for Reader, is the format considered
>>>>> >>> > accessible?
>>>>> >>> > I
>>>>> >>> > know in the UK, you can use OCR to store only a part of a book
>>>>> >>> > on
>>>> your
>>>>> >>> > computer, and this prohibits distribution or alteration of the
>>>>> >>> > content.
>>>>> >>> > Outside of the UK and US I don't know anything about the
>>>>> >>> > legality
>>>>> >>> > of
>>>>> >> this
>>>>> >>> > sort of situation, and I wouldn't like to offer advice that may
>>>>> >>> > mean
>>>>> >>> > you
>>>>> >>> > break the law and are subsequently open to prosicution.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > I'm currently discussing the point with some folk from MS UK,
>>>>> >>> > who
>>>>> >>> > I
>>>>> >>> > suspect,
>>>>> >>> > being the format vendor, are in a position to make a judgement
>>>>> >>> > on
>>>>> >>> > th
>>>> e
>>>>> >>> > legality. I'll post more when I hear something from MS.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Will
>>>>> >>> > Microsoft MVP (Visual Studio/VC++)
>>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> > From: "Nektarios Mallas" <nmallas@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:47 PM
>>>>> >>> > Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>>>>> >>> > format.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >> Thanks for this.
>>>>> >>> >> Do you know if there is any other way to extract the text from
>>>>> >>> >> the
>>>>> >> *.lit
>>>>> >>> >> file and read it in other standard programs?
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Nektarios.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >>> >> From: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> >>> >> Behalf
>>>>> >>> >> Of Will Pearson
>>>>> >>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:55 PM
>>>>> >>> >> To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>> >> Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>>>> format.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Hi;
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Whilst MS Reader isn't supported by any of the screen readers,
>>>> there
>>>>> >>> >> is
>>>>> >>> >> a plug in. Microsoft have provided a text to speech plug in
>>>>> >>> >> for
>>>>> >>> >> Reader
>>>>> >>> >> that will read aloud the document. It's based on MS SAPI, and
>>>>> >>> >> uses
>>>>> >>> >> the
>>>>> >>> >> standard SAPI synth that ships with Windows. You can find a
>>>> download
>>>>> >>> >> for this from the Reader downloads page.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Will
>>>>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>> >> From: "Nektarios Mallas" <nmallas@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> >> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:39 AM
>>>>> >>> >> Subject: [guispeak] Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit
>>>>> >>> >> format.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > Hello list.
>>>>> >>> >> > Is Microsoft ebook reader accessible by screen readers? Is
>>>>> >>> >> > there
>>>>> >>> >> > any
>>>>> >>> >> > other way to access a *.lit file and extract the text from it
>>>>> >>> >> > so
>>>>> >>> >> > you
>>>>> >>> >> > can read it with standard applications such as wordpad?
>>>>> >>> >> > Thanks.
>>>>> >>> >> > Nektarios.
>>>>> >>> >> >
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