Dear Neville, How do these relate to the two diagrams that you posed to Regner? Presumably your idea of using a camera and a distant object is to back up the simulation with a practical experiment. Is that correct? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: translational motion of the earth...... That's the whole point, Jack. There is no difference. Yet one simulation is achieved with a snapshot every 4 minutes and the other is achieved with a snapshot every 24 hours. There is only one rotation axis, not two. Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com