[geocentrism] Re: translational motion of the earth......

  • From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:15:12 -0800 (PST)

Translational motion is also referred to as "sliding" or "rolling" motion (to 
change position without rotation). see attached diagram .....In HC the nightly 
axis of rotation or the celestial pole the axis translates around the orbit of 
the earth. This is to say that the axis always faces the same direction ..Iʼll 
even use Paulʼs diagram to show it ( i expounded upon it) ( i will reinvent the 
wheel latter) The celestial pole does not rotate around the ecliptic axis as 
Regner showed in his diagram..!? Although I agree (as per HC/AC) the celestial 
axis "translates"/ ("slides" to keep looking in the same direction of the sky) 
around the ecliptic axis annually. ( if faces that same direction at the same 
angle, it does not rotate as Regner showed it to, and if it did that would even 
further frustrate any and all attempts to explain it) On 24 hour intervals the 
camera is inline with the spokes on a bicycle running from the night side of 
the earth to the
 sun. On 24 hour intervals ( midnight) over the course of a year the camera is 
in itʼs radial position, not its "translated position".( Every 23 h 56 min the 
camera would be in its translated position.) A radial position over the course 
of the period of any orbit cause a net effect of a rotation of the film and 
camera around the ecliptic axis in the same way that the camera would nightly. 
See Paulʼs diagram attached....... Notice, that on 24 hour intervals regaudell 
of the translated conditon of the celestial axis the observer is in a radial 
position with the spokes extending out from the sun to the observer, over the 
cours of a year the fixed camera will have rotated around the ecliptic axis. 
The rotational condition cannot be avoided and thus cannot be negated 
observably.



----- Original Message ----
From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:42:44 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth?


Regner, Paul and all,
 
You cannot have "translational motion" (or any motion for that matter) where 
every 24 hours  lined up as a spoke on a wheel (midnight) at the same point on 
earth while in a orbit around the sun and not have a rotational condition for 
the fixed observer/photo plate.....That is "TECHNICALLY" called a "physical 
absurdity".!?. Nor can It even be modeled in reality  period!......Even if his 
diagram was true, which it was not even close...


Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
Regner T
From Regner Trampedach Tue Nov 13 14:47:09 2007
Thank you for your illustration EarthOrbit2.gif (9KB). It awaits Allen's 
confirmation of course, but assuming this is forthcoming, it explains what he 
was saying -- which was beyond my ability to comprehend. Well done!
Oops! While writing this, another saga arrived -- it appears Allen is 
withholding his confirmation! I got the impression he didn't read all the stuff 
in capitals but I may be wrong.
You state (in capitals on a line by itself) THERE IS NO ROTATION AROUND THE 
ECLIPTIC AXIS. I take it this is a technically correct statement which does not 
rule out translational motion about this axis? And of course revolution about 
this axis would also be incorrect -- that motion is about the Sun. 
Comments/corrections?
Paul D



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