[geocentrism] Re: translational motion of the earth......
- From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:33:57 +0000 (GMT)
Neville J
In control.
Your description is fine for the camera which records the 'nightly' trails but
not for the camera which records the 'annual' trails -- this is the one which
is fixed directly to the ecliptic disk.
I know that resorting to analogy is a risky process. Its success depends
considerably upon the intended audience's receptivity, yet it has its uses
where goodwill exists.
If I, as the editor of a weekly news magazine, were to offer you a commission
to provide me with two definitive photographs of traffic, one from the point of
a pedestrian, and one from the point of view of a motorist, but instead you
provided me with one view of traffic from the point of view of a pededstrian
and one view of traffic from the point of view of another pedestrian -- you
wouldn't get paid.
I can understand why you won't address this issue but I'm sure you understand
me.
You can have the last crack.
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 6:38:50 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: translational motion of the earth......
Paul,
Temper, temper.
If the camera is fixed to a mount, and the mount is fixed to the ground, and
the ground is fixed to the World, and the World is fixed to the ecliptic, and
the ecliptic rotates about the Sun (which is equivalent to the World going
around a path in the plane of the ecliptic), then is the camera not fixed to
the ecliptic disc?
Neville
www.GeocentricUniverse.com
-----Original Message-----
From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:15:22 +0000 (GMT)
Neville J
No sir! I said FIX it to the ecliptic disk or SIMULATE fixing it to the
ecliptic disk; I did not say SUBSTITUTE something (like the Earth) for it.
You can't evade this issue for ever you know!
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 6:01:03 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: translational motion of the earth......
Paul,
Regarding your point number 6, the thing that fixes the camera to the disc of
the ecliptic [plane] is the same thing that fixed the camera in point 5 - i.e.,
the World (or earth), since the World must stay in this plane, just as it must
continue to rotate about its geographical polar axis in the heliocentric model
under discussion.
I may have given you two pictures of the wedding party, but their relation to
the position of the bell tower will be clearly seen in one of them.
Neville
www.GeocentricUniverse.com
-----Original Message-----
From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:46:16 +0000 (GMT)
Neville J
1. Assume R = 1AU = 2AU.
2. Place your camera in a fixed position anywhere in a sphere of radius 1AU
centered on the Sun.
3. Point it at the NCP. Chock the shutter open. Rotate the camera 360 deg in
almost any period of time. Close the shutter. Result -- star trails centred on
the NCP -- sometimes referred to as 'nightly' star trails.
4. Point your camera at the NEP. Chock the shutter open. Rotate the camera 360
degrees in almost any period of time. Close the shutter. Result -- star trails
centred on the NEP -- sometimes referred to as 'annual' star trails.
5. In #3, the rotation can be obtained by fixing the camera directly to the
Earth.
6. In #4, the rotation can be obtained by fixing the camera to the disk of the
ecliptic (or by simulating it).
I wanted one picture of the wedding party and one of the bell tower. You've
given me two of the wedding party.
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
That's the whole point, Jack. There is no difference. Yet one simulation is
achieved with a snapshot every 4 minutes and the other is achieved with a
snapshot every 24 hours.
There is only one rotation axis, not two.
Neville
www.GeocentricUniverse.com
-----Original Message-----
From: jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:58:16 -0000
Dear Neville,
I can't see any difference in the two videos. What does this mean? Are you not
able to simulate that which you want to try and do with a camera?
Jack
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