[geocentrism] Re: Question begging
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:54:59 +1000
Robert, we can have the whole alphabet of worlds, and this would merely
increase the complexity of speeds and directions, without altering the stated
radar confirmed fact that A and B will collide at 100 mph, even had they both
been moving in the same direction at 100,000mph the one behind doing 100,100
mph.
"relativists went awry" they the theorists, don't come into my category. My
relativity is pure mechanics.
Curved motion may be different. But Asimov said that the beings in the flying
saucers circa 50's survived 90 degree turns at 2000mph, because the prime mover
force was applied to every molecule/atom, not just the vehicle, but all the
contents as well.
Now the people in the space station hurtling around the globe. Do they all
drift to the space side of the hull, like in a centrifuge? No. So Asimov is
correct.
Loving it,
Phil.
PS Can I call all this doing my easter duty?
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Bennett
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Question begging
Let's be semantically careful here, since gedankens like this are how the
relativists went awry.
In the antecedent, who measured the speed? A? B? another world C?
Even if A and B both independently measure 100 mph, still there are problems
:
a.. speeds may be different, but the equipment/procedure lacks the
precision to detect the difference. What if the speed were a thousand times
faster? A million?
a.. Perhaps neither A and B are the absolute frame, but C is. If C were
used , then a difference in speed would be seen, but C wasn't chosen... too
bad.
a.. Maybe there's an absolute frame that doesn't separate out by velocity
experiments, but only with higher order motion changes. Then A could be an ARF
but not discernible with speed measurements.
Robert
Philip: In free space if two worlds A and B are coming together to collide at
100mph, no one can say what the real motions are out of an infinite number of
variations which may be:
A is stationary,
A is moving towards B,
A is moving away from B
or
B is stationary,
B is moving toward A
B is moving away from A.
And all this infinite number of variables must have the resultant combination
that will be a 100mph collision.
There is no fixed point of reference. Thus one is assumed. I who live on A
can chose my world as static. You on B can chose that your world is static.
Nothing changes mathmatically, it wil be a 100mph collision. But the reality is
a presumption in both cases, and niether world is static. Therefore not a
proven reality.
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