[geocentrism] Re: Question begging

  • From: "Martin G. Selbrede" <mselbrede@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:45:29 -0500


On Mar 21, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Paul Deema wrote to Robert Bennett:

I guess your weakness in physics shows up here again, the Earth's acceleration (revolution) does not influence the period of its satellites either.


That, Paul, is what's known as an "oops" on your part. The Lense- Thirring Effect does in fact predict rotational inertial dragging of frames in the vicinity of a rotating body, and it is an effect that has been experimentally confirmed. While the amount is infinitesimal for a mass as small as the Earth (assuming it to be rotating, which I disavow), it is nonetheless non-zero. A rotating body DOES have a mechanical influence on the periods of objects around them -- it's generally too tiny to detect.

So, while you might be correct on raw Newtonian grounds, in the absolute empirical scheme of things the only thing exposed by your post is your own weakness in physics. True, the magnitudes of the Lense-Thirring Effect likely don't affect your primary argument, BUT your blanket statement goes too far in asserting zero influence.

Don't think to say that Newton "is good enough." Long's 1970 determination of G using a Cavendish torsion balance, set up with precision elemental rings, showed deviations in the value of G (based on Newtonian theory) of 0.37%. That means Newton is off by a whoping 1 part in 300, and this error was readily detectible in an earth- bound laboratory. Einsteinian theory can't explain that anomaly either, so GR is likewise an unreliable codification of gravitation.

That said, I'm still interested in hearing from Robert as to what HE meant by his comment (perhaps it had something to do with accounting for elliptical orbits, which would entail accelerations/decelerations if they were assumed to be circular, or he sees something else entirely that needs to be factored in...)

Regards,

Martin
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