[geocentrism] Re: Conspiracy and global warming
- From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:41:25 -0800 (PST)
Guided by central authority according to central plan, a socialistic economy
can be democratic or dictatorial. A democracy in which the central authority
depends on public support through ballots and elections cannot proceed
differently from the capitalistic economy. It will produce and distribute what
the public likes, that is, alcohol, tobacco, trash in literature, on the stage,
and in the cinema, and fashionable frills. The capitalistic economy, however,
caters as well to the taste of a few consumers. Goods are produced that are
demanded by some consumers, and not by all. The democratic command economy with
its dependence on popular majority need not consider the special wishes of the
minority. It will cater exclusively to the masses.
But even if it is managed by a dictator who, without consideration for the
wishes of the public, enforces what he deems best — who clothes, feeds, and
houses the people as he sees fit — there is no assurance that he will do what
appears proper to "us." The critics of the capitalistic order always seem to
believe that the socialistic system of their dreams will do precisely what they
think correct. While they may not always count on becoming dictators
themselves, they are hoping that the dictator will not act without first
seeking their advice. Thus they arrive at the popular contrast of productivity
and profitability. They call "productive" those economic actions they deem
correct. And because things may be different at times, they reject the
capitalistic order, which is guided by profitability and the wishes of
consumers, the true masters of markets and production. They forget that a
dictator, too, may act differently from their wishes, and that
there is no assurance that he will really try for the "best," and, even if he
should seek it, that he should find the way to the "best."
more:
http://mises.org/story/3156
--- On Tue, 11/25/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Conspiracy and global warming
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 3:48 PM
There are lots of Jewish reasons why social credit will not work.. All
Jewish.. Its like National socialism is not Communism, but it still is
totalitarianism.. And both use social credit economics as regards the money
supply, yet it is toward slavery of the masses.
The word social as misused as it is, comes from the word "society". I prefer
the term "economic democracy" . liberal and conservative are also
misnomers.. I am a conservative progressive liberal.
Economic democracy means that all money should be created by an independent
agency of the state and issued at cost of production, (which is virtually
nothing) to the consumers of goods produced. Of course there are rules checks
and balances , the main one of course being that the amount of money must equal
the value of the goods available for sale, and balance is maintained annually
if you like. The democracy part is that peoples vote with their money.. IE
people who manufacture faulty goods do not sell much.. and will go out of
business. . The system was designed by an army engineer, a protestant as well,
though the principles involved were always Catholic from the earliest of times,
before the Jews got control of the banking system, and created all money as a
debt. His name was Major Douglas, and his basic book was called Economic
Democracy.. It works because his was an engineering problem not an economic
one,, Money is a transport
mechanism to distribute goods and labour.. It has no intrinsic value in
itself.
If you give 12 economists a problem they will come up with 13 answers. ..
I t was used by Hitler to make Germany enormous during the depression.
Australia used it once during the same period, and built the Grand continental
Railway from adelaide to Kalgoorly free of debt.. to a large degree the
Coomonwealth Bank saved australia from the worst of the depression.. This was
why it had to go. It is no longer ...
Back then when people borrowed from the peoples Bank, they owed the money to
themselves. not the private bankers . Its advertising motto was "get with the
strength" .. Oh how the international Jew bankers hated that slogan.
Pauls answer to the problem I gave is simple.. If 1000 people get marooned on
the island that has many resources , they elect a leader. They nominate a
readily available stone as currency. they open a book and enter credits for
each individual. this is the base money issued to all for basic necessities.
Some people will then work privately others for the governmentand earn and
spend.. and so distribution of goods is effected. Society will grow.. (social
) credit.. get it?
Philip.
pS the whole problem is well documented for Paul .. see attached
----- Original Message -----
From: Bernie Brauer
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:18 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Conspiracy and global warming
Philip,
What is "social credit"?
The word "social" seems to have become a euphemism for stealing.
Thus "socialized medicine" becomes "stolen medicine" ( the people
who PUT AN EFFORT INTO keeping themselves healthy, productive,
and financially frugal are forced to hand over $1,000 dollars to a robber
who keeps $501 for himself and gives $499 to a person who has put an
effort into living a unhealthy, spendthrift, unproductive lifestyle so
that his body can be repaired.
Here is why "stolen credit" wouldn't work"
http://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/rdPncl0.html#Introduction,%20by%20Milton%20Friedman
Bernie
--- On Tue, 11/25/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Conspiracy and global warming
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 12:47 AM
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How are your checks coming?
Paul D Its a long essay, going back 7000 years on one side, Biblical , and a
lot further on your figures, evolutionary wise.. and then projecting forward.
Of course I am certain there will not be another 1000 years, in Gods planning,
so all the aborted would have fitted in very well, but Ill pretend..and let
nature flow..
Have you read my tips on how to provide a prosperous healthy life for the
entire population of Australia moved to Tasmania yet, only from the local
resources of that island? Without demolishing all the trees either? Ill slip
it again, its called social credit... not debt..
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Deema
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:10 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Conspiracy and global warming
Philip M
You said -- From philip madsen Wed Nov 19 14:56:55 2008
And here you are , on the basis of your gloomy predictions of a 1000 years
hence calling for a culling of the current population, Murder by another name
even if it is by deprivation .
I will check your figures, as I doubt them as regards the overpopulation
question, in 1000 years time.
How are your checks coming?
Paul D
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