[elky] Re: Sprint's generator nos 1, 2

  • From: Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:54:48 -0700

Well, what I didn't write on that page is that I used the Q-jet for a doorstop (the Holley I was using wore out <G>.)

There's only the one wire for the choke.  That's it.  That's one reason I love Edelbrocks (and Carters.)  The other reason is that they're "set 'em and forget 'em" carbs.  You don't have to tinker with 'em forever like ya do with with Holleys. 

I fixed the links on the page and on the page it linked to.

@John:  Yeah, Steve H figgered Q-jets were God's gift to carburetion.  I'm of the opinion that they're the spawn of the devil himself.  I didn't send him the carb...like I wrote, I used it as a doorstop until I cleaned stuff out when we moved.  Then the Elky got loaded to the gills with stuff that went to the landfill.  I sure regret gettin rid of a lot of that...but then I'm sorta doing the same thing now.  I need room in my tiny garage cuz I wanna shoot the Monte with primer-sealer before it goes to the salt and there just isn't enough room to do that without heavin some shit over the side.

Jim and I discussed some plans for next year's "assault on the salt" and we're gonna run a two-car team.  He wants to get his truck into the 130 club, same as I want to get the Monte, so it'll be interesting to see how it works out.

We both need new helmets since the rules require SFI 2005 and newer...same for firesuits.  Btw, if you want a convincing argument for HANS devices, check this thread on landracing:
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,8806.0.html  This is what the car looked like afterward:



You can see Mike Cook coming to tell me not to shoot any more photos...but now that the video's been released...well, please don't repost it, just in case.

Last funny thing about the salt flats project is that I'm gonna run a Demon 750 on the Monte.  I don't know shit about 'em.  I guess I'm gonna learn a lot.  :)

r


On 11/18/2010 2:59 PM, Saul Marsh wrote:
That's a great article Ray!  I have a q-jet on a shelf that is correct for my car, and have thought about rebuilding it just to learn more about carburetors. 
 
Was there only one electrical connection to make to the edelbrock?  I'd love the idea of not having to mess with the choke.  Currently, it is a battle to get the Sprint started in weather colder than 50 degrees.  I usually park it behind my house in the winter, and only start it on unseasonably warm days.  Although with patience, and a screwdriver holding the choke open, I have been able to warm up the Sprint on a 10-degree day before.

From: John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 5:34:30 AM
Subject: [elky] Re: Sprint's generator nos 1, 2

I will have to agree 100% with Ray on this. I have a Weiand Steath intake that used to be on the Elky when it had a carb, and now it's on the Monte. It is basically the same thing as a performer. Better flow, dual plane for torque, low enough to stay under a stock hood.

I think I have the 1407on the Monte, and it had a manual choke. So I bought a choke kit for it and now all is right with the world.

I had the same problem with the hot wire Ray. I had to pull it from somewhere else, and I think I even ran one from the fuse box that was hot with the ignition. Your link on that page is broken though, that says "Click here for more info on how I did this. " for the choke wire info. 

I did have to rebuild the Edlebrock that came with the Monte, but I have had to refurb almost everything the P/O did. They are easy, and it's been a long time since that project. The Carter AFB I had on the El Camino before fuel injection was basically the same thing. They run great, and you can change metering rods without taking it apart, right from the top. So don't be afraid of a used one, I would say.

I remember when you did this! Wasn't Steve H giving you s#!t because he could make any Q-jet run? Some people can! Just not me. I thought you ended up sending it to him. Could be RBD or CRS, or LMNO too.

JC

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Go with an Edelbrock Performer or Performer RPM (if you have a bit of a cam in it...the Performer is just a little better than stock) and an Edelbrock 1406 carb.  Set it and forget it.  You'll thank yourself endlessly as you drive with consistent performance and reliability.

Read this page.  I've never found anything to change my mind.
http://www.chevyasylum.com/Previous%20Projects/80elky/80elky11.html

r

On 11/17/2010 7:25 AM, Saul Marsh wrote:
The catalog has many '73-'77 parts with a note saying "May be out of stock...call for availablity."  It gives me the impression that he had a limited number of parts made, but does not plan on continuing to carry them in the future. 
 
Mary, the limerick is mine....I like joking about my car as much as I like working on it.  As far as the manifold and carb go, I still toss around the idea of getting an aftermarket carb and manifold.  My car is so far away from original, with cut wires and tubes spliced and emission control parts missing...I just don't think I'd be able to hook up a correct Quadrajet up to it anymore.  But if I do, I will definitely try to have my ducks in a row before I remove any bolts. 

From: John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 6:03:29 PM
Subject: [elky] Re: Sprint's generator nos 1, 2

He is the only one I know of (practically) that has any parts for those. I don't know that the parts were ever 'in' so I wouldn't say they are necessarily on the way out.

Call Rick though, he is a great guy. We have had many a long conversation. Not always about cars either.

JC

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Saul Marsh <saulmarsh72@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Elkenstein is a great name JC!
 
I missed your e-mail about ecparts.  I like that place and noticed all the photos of '73-'77 in his catalog (although I noticed that the parts for that generation all seem to be on their way out).  Will see if I can dig up the catalog again...I had no idea your elky was in it!

From: John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 4:32:17 AM
Subject: [elky] Re: Sprint's generator nos 1, 2

Sounds like a good name.
It resembles my Monte as far as the parts and strategy by the Previous owner.
The EL Camino by virtue of the sheer number of parts from different vehicles, and the fact that it keeps dying, but coming back to life (hence: Elkenstein).

I am glad you found the parts source. I wish I had closer yards. 30 minutes north or south for me to get to one.

JC


On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Saul Marsh <saulmarsh72@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Mary!
 
I went to a great salvage yard yesterday.  The owner used to drive a GMC Sprint.  He immediately recognized my Autozone alternator as the correct one for my year of vehicle.  He also saw my "before" photo and said the old aternator belonged to a mid to late 80's GM vehicle.  He sold me some alternator brackets that were identical to the ones in your photo.  Unfortunately they still don't fit.  I think this all has to do with the previous owner installing a 1980-ish carburetor on the car, which would presumably required replacing the intake manifold, which would then require fabbing new alternator brackets, and throw on an incorrect alternator to top it all off.  What do I have now.........
 
.......a Clustertruck!!!   (new name for my '73 Sprint).
 
Still was a good weekend, though, and I'm very glad to find a friendly, patient, knowledgeable salvage yard owner.  That's as good as gold.
 
Saul
'73 GMC Sprint
"Clustertruck"

 

From: Mary McCarthy <printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 5:37:07 PM

Subject: [elky] Sprint's generator nos 1, 2


Sprints generator 10-SI with brackets 6 photos all together







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