[dungeoncrawl] Re: Character stats
- From: Johnathan Detrick <jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:23:43 -0400
I have no problems switching to Wednesday. The night we play is
unimportant to me.
As for new characters (and not to dissuade anyone) Magnus won't be very
sociable to new characters. Of course, as DM, Jim could force them into the
group, and that would be fine. However, if anyone gets thrown to the wolves,
Magnus would throw new characters first.
Again, just like when I e-mailed Jim about Magnus killing the current
Riders to free some of the older ones, this isn't a threat, and it isn't John
using Magnus to get his way. I would just feel bad if someone went to the
trouble of creating new characters, just to see them killed by Magnus before
they went very far (ask Jim about his ranger/thief, and Keith about his
dwarven berserker).
Damon Kline wrote:
> Well, since Monday is a holiday, I don't think I'll be here to get the
> emails. :) Maybe on Tuesday.
>
> That does remind me of something though. Matt mentioned to me the other
> day, the idea of permanently switching our D&D night from Monday to
> Wednesday. It doesn't really matter to either myself or Matt, but he
> thought that way we could avoid having to reschedule on the weeks that Jim
> has to volunteer. What do you guys think? Which works better for the two
> of you?
>
> I'm torn on the idea of making up a new character. I have really been in
> the mood lately to make up a character. Something different that I could
> play around with. But then again, I already have so many characters, do I
> really want to add another? But then on the other hand, if the Riders do
> succeed in becoming deities, I'll most likely be losing three of my high
> level characters.
>
> Did you have anything in particular in mind Jim? Any ideas on where they
> would come from, how they would be involved, classes, races, etc.?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:07 AM
> To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: Character stats
>
> I think it's neat to see what everyone
> is doing with their characters - I
> haven't had time to respond much today,
> but will try to send some replies that
> you'll receive Monday.
>
> By the way, a thought occurred to me
> today. If anyone wants to create a new
> mid-high level character for the higher
> powered adventure, feel free! I know
> Matt mentioned an interest in creating
> new characters - I'll even let them
> start with a magical item or two. :)
>
> Give it some thought - it might even
> make for a more interesting party,
> since they won't all be "Dyed in the
> wool" riders. Let me know!
>
> >
> > Isn't it fun to see what your
> characters are capable of? I had some
> of the
> > most ludicrous spells for Quincy; who
> the hell would cast some of the things
> he
> > took? I'm hoping that I have a nice
> mix of combat and non-combat. He does
> use
> > some meta-magic feats, although not
> too many. Usually, I find a level
> where I
> > only have stupid spells, and see what
> lower level spells I can replace the
> > stupid ones with. In his case, I
> maximized a vampiric touch, since the
> health
> > could save his life at some time.
> > That was a great idea that Jim
> had, using a separate character sheet
> for
> > Kilian when in super-hero mode. :)
> It should make it a lot easier for
> you. I
> > think these five will be pretty
> effective. Separately they are flawed
> and
> > wussy, but together, they are mighty!
> >
> > Damon Kline wrote:
> >
> > > Great minds must think alike, as I
> have been working on my characters as
> > > well. Sinjen just went up a level,
> which makes him a 7th level Wu Jen/4th
> > > level Monk. This gave him one
> extra 1st level spell and a 4th level
> spell,
> > > plus his bonus spell at 4th level,
> which gives him two.
> > >
> > > However, one thing I have not done
> much with when using Wizards are the
> > > metamagic feats. Sinjen only has
> one, but I'm trying to find a way to use
> > > it. At this point, he can't,
> because it would only allow him to
> maximize a
> > > 1st level spell because it requires
> it to be 3 levels higher. He doesn't
> > > want to give up a 4th level slot
> just yet, since he just got them. But,
> as
> > > a Wu Jen, he has a cool ability.
> At 3rd level and every 3 levels after
> > > that, he can use Spell Secret. He
> can choose any spell that he knows and
> > > apply one of four metamagic feats
> to it permanently. Those are Enlarge
> > > spell, Extend spell, Silent spell
> and Still spell. They do not require
> you
> > > to memorize the spell at one level
> higher as is normally the case and the
> > > effect is permanent for that
> spell. So, if he chooses to apply the
> silent
> > > feat to a magic missile, then any
> time he memorizes a magic missile spell,
> > > it is silent. I also revamped his
> spell list to give him more of an
> > > oriental feel, using some of their
> unique spells. I don't know that this
> > > will do much, since most of their
> spells require you to hit and the target
> > > gets a save, but it will look
> cool. This character is always about
> style.
> > > :)
> > >
> > > I took Jim's advice and used a
> separate character sheet to make up
> Kilian as
> > > a 20th level druid for when
> he "summons the power of his father".
> I'm still
> > > in the process of picking spells,
> but so far he should be pretty kick ass
> > > when he does this! I also changed
> his normal spell selection around. I've
> > > wanted him to call upon nature's
> help by summoning animals, but they
> always
> > > seem so useless against what we
> normally fight. However, I found spells
> > > that I always overlooked because I
> couldn't figure out why you would use
> > > them. The two that I found in
> particular were Greater Magic Fang and
> Animal
> > > Growth. So as a tactic, Kilian
> could use Summon Nature's Ally V to
> summon a
> > > Dire Lion, which is a decent animal
> to have around, but not overly
> > > threatening. Then he could cast
> Animal Growth on it which doubles its
> size
> > > and hit dice. This increases its
> strength and it's base attack bonus and
> > > it's damage done. It increases its
> hit points and armor class as well.
> > > Very useful spell. Then, Greater
> Magic Fang grants one natural attack of
> a
> > > creature a +1 for every 3 levels of
> the caster. Effectively making the
> > > creature able to increase its
> ability to hit and do damage and
> override
> > > damage reduction if the bonus is
> high enough.
> > >
> > > Now the downside to all of this, is
> that it would take him 3 rounds to get
> > > this in place. Since he is the
> party's main fighter at this point, that
> > > might be a problem. But, we'll see
> how it goes.
> > >
> > > I am definitely excited to play
> these guys!!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Johnathan Detrick
> [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:31
> AM
> > > To: Riders II
> > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Character
> stats
> > >
> > > I have spent the last few
> mornings before work going over Magnus,
> > > Quincy and Ilana, since they are
> the current active characters I have.
> > > I wanted to let Jim know what
> changed, since he is DMing. I also
> wanted
> > > to show that I have accomplished
> all of the following, in time spurts of
> > > 15 minutes each, in just a few
> days. Now, I love to create and fiddle
> > > with characters; its one of my
> favorite parts of the game. But I have
> > > always believed it leads me to
> enjoy the game more; when my characters
> > > are at their best and everything is
> organized, I can play for hours.
> > > And it's not about making them the
> most powerful character I can; it's
> > > about choosing feats, skills and
> spells that fit their personality. In
> > > the end, though, this does make
> them more effective, so the results are
> > > still positive.
> > > Ilana is now an 8th level
> cleric. I made no real changes here.
> One
> > > of the things I decided for her was
> to make her a utility cleric. Since
> > > she won't attack, I can forget all
> of the offensive cleric spells.
> > > Instead, I'm trying to give her
> spells to allow her to aid the group in
> > > any situation. Spells like Water
> Breathing, Freedom of Movement,
> > > Neutralize Poison, Remove Disease,
> Dispel Magic, Restoration and the
> > > like should enable her to help out
> in a variety of areas. I had pretty
> > > much decided on that direction for
> her when I created her, and it's
> > > helped me to give her purpose, and
> it helps me to know what to do with
> > > her in combat. And it fits her
> personality perfectly.
> > > Magnus isn't quite done yet,
> but as expected, he is now 21st level.
> > > I've begun to raise him in level
> with the epic level book. Sadly, he
> > > gets very little. I need to pick
> an epic feat for him and I am done.
> > > I'll let Jim know what I choose.
> > > Quincy took the most work
> (although it was still only about 30
> > > minutes). He is one of those
> characters that I created a long time
> ago
> > > with a strong idea, and then
> completely forgot about. I see him a
> lot
> > > as Giles on Buffy. He's extremely
> intelligent and very inquisitive. He
> > > is absolutely fascinated by undead
> and their like, but he doesn't use
> > > undead, and he doesn't support
> them. He has some elements of Thaylone,
> > > in that he is looking for a group
> to belong to and acceptance, but he's
> > > not as concerned as Thaylone is
> about it. He's not a bad guy, but he
> > > can be a little ruthless. Combine
> the love of knowledge from Zolkiir,
> > > with the pragmatism of D'Alleva and
> the quest for acceptance of
> > > Thaylone, throw in a little of
> Quent's cowardice, and a dash of
> > > prissiness, and there you have him.
> > > I had to completely overhaul
> his spell list. As some of you may be
> > > aware, Necromancy (in my opinion)
> has some of the most useless spells
> > > out there! Yeesh! It's even
> harder when you remove those spells that
> > > animate undead. However, I decided
> to make up my own type of necromancy
> > > spell list. Besides those spells
> that are actually necromantic spells,
> > > I loaded him up with cold spells.
> To my mind, cold is the element most
> > > associated with the dead (and
> please, let me know if you think I'm off
> > > base), so I removed all fire spells
> and now all of his offensive spells
> > > are cold. To me, he seems pretty
> cool, and I think his new spell list
> > > will be very helpful! I can't wait
> to use him!
> > > So that's where my characters
> stand, ready to go for next week. I
> > > can't wait!
> >
> >
> >
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