[dungeoncrawl] Re: Character stats
- From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:06:35 US/Eastern
I think it's neat to see what everyone
is doing with their characters - I
haven't had time to respond much today,
but will try to send some replies that
you'll receive Monday.
By the way, a thought occurred to me
today. If anyone wants to create a new
mid-high level character for the higher
powered adventure, feel free! I know
Matt mentioned an interest in creating
new characters - I'll even let them
start with a magical item or two. :)
Give it some thought - it might even
make for a more interesting party,
since they won't all be "Dyed in the
wool" riders. Let me know!
>
> Isn't it fun to see what your
characters are capable of? I had some
of the
> most ludicrous spells for Quincy; who
the hell would cast some of the things
he
> took? I'm hoping that I have a nice
mix of combat and non-combat. He does
use
> some meta-magic feats, although not
too many. Usually, I find a level
where I
> only have stupid spells, and see what
lower level spells I can replace the
> stupid ones with. In his case, I
maximized a vampiric touch, since the
health
> could save his life at some time.
> That was a great idea that Jim
had, using a separate character sheet
for
> Kilian when in super-hero mode. :)
It should make it a lot easier for
you. I
> think these five will be pretty
effective. Separately they are flawed
and
> wussy, but together, they are mighty!
>
> Damon Kline wrote:
>
> > Great minds must think alike, as I
have been working on my characters as
> > well. Sinjen just went up a level,
which makes him a 7th level Wu Jen/4th
> > level Monk. This gave him one
extra 1st level spell and a 4th level
spell,
> > plus his bonus spell at 4th level,
which gives him two.
> >
> > However, one thing I have not done
much with when using Wizards are the
> > metamagic feats. Sinjen only has
one, but I'm trying to find a way to use
> > it. At this point, he can't,
because it would only allow him to
maximize a
> > 1st level spell because it requires
it to be 3 levels higher. He doesn't
> > want to give up a 4th level slot
just yet, since he just got them. But,
as
> > a Wu Jen, he has a cool ability.
At 3rd level and every 3 levels after
> > that, he can use Spell Secret. He
can choose any spell that he knows and
> > apply one of four metamagic feats
to it permanently. Those are Enlarge
> > spell, Extend spell, Silent spell
and Still spell. They do not require
you
> > to memorize the spell at one level
higher as is normally the case and the
> > effect is permanent for that
spell. So, if he chooses to apply the
silent
> > feat to a magic missile, then any
time he memorizes a magic missile spell,
> > it is silent. I also revamped his
spell list to give him more of an
> > oriental feel, using some of their
unique spells. I don't know that this
> > will do much, since most of their
spells require you to hit and the target
> > gets a save, but it will look
cool. This character is always about
style.
> > :)
> >
> > I took Jim's advice and used a
separate character sheet to make up
Kilian as
> > a 20th level druid for when
he "summons the power of his father".
I'm still
> > in the process of picking spells,
but so far he should be pretty kick ass
> > when he does this! I also changed
his normal spell selection around. I've
> > wanted him to call upon nature's
help by summoning animals, but they
always
> > seem so useless against what we
normally fight. However, I found spells
> > that I always overlooked because I
couldn't figure out why you would use
> > them. The two that I found in
particular were Greater Magic Fang and
Animal
> > Growth. So as a tactic, Kilian
could use Summon Nature's Ally V to
summon a
> > Dire Lion, which is a decent animal
to have around, but not overly
> > threatening. Then he could cast
Animal Growth on it which doubles its
size
> > and hit dice. This increases its
strength and it's base attack bonus and
> > it's damage done. It increases its
hit points and armor class as well.
> > Very useful spell. Then, Greater
Magic Fang grants one natural attack of
a
> > creature a +1 for every 3 levels of
the caster. Effectively making the
> > creature able to increase its
ability to hit and do damage and
override
> > damage reduction if the bonus is
high enough.
> >
> > Now the downside to all of this, is
that it would take him 3 rounds to get
> > this in place. Since he is the
party's main fighter at this point, that
> > might be a problem. But, we'll see
how it goes.
> >
> > I am definitely excited to play
these guys!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnathan Detrick
[mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:31
AM
> > To: Riders II
> > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Character
stats
> >
> > I have spent the last few
mornings before work going over Magnus,
> > Quincy and Ilana, since they are
the current active characters I have.
> > I wanted to let Jim know what
changed, since he is DMing. I also
wanted
> > to show that I have accomplished
all of the following, in time spurts of
> > 15 minutes each, in just a few
days. Now, I love to create and fiddle
> > with characters; its one of my
favorite parts of the game. But I have
> > always believed it leads me to
enjoy the game more; when my characters
> > are at their best and everything is
organized, I can play for hours.
> > And it's not about making them the
most powerful character I can; it's
> > about choosing feats, skills and
spells that fit their personality. In
> > the end, though, this does make
them more effective, so the results are
> > still positive.
> > Ilana is now an 8th level
cleric. I made no real changes here.
One
> > of the things I decided for her was
to make her a utility cleric. Since
> > she won't attack, I can forget all
of the offensive cleric spells.
> > Instead, I'm trying to give her
spells to allow her to aid the group in
> > any situation. Spells like Water
Breathing, Freedom of Movement,
> > Neutralize Poison, Remove Disease,
Dispel Magic, Restoration and the
> > like should enable her to help out
in a variety of areas. I had pretty
> > much decided on that direction for
her when I created her, and it's
> > helped me to give her purpose, and
it helps me to know what to do with
> > her in combat. And it fits her
personality perfectly.
> > Magnus isn't quite done yet,
but as expected, he is now 21st level.
> > I've begun to raise him in level
with the epic level book. Sadly, he
> > gets very little. I need to pick
an epic feat for him and I am done.
> > I'll let Jim know what I choose.
> > Quincy took the most work
(although it was still only about 30
> > minutes). He is one of those
characters that I created a long time
ago
> > with a strong idea, and then
completely forgot about. I see him a
lot
> > as Giles on Buffy. He's extremely
intelligent and very inquisitive. He
> > is absolutely fascinated by undead
and their like, but he doesn't use
> > undead, and he doesn't support
them. He has some elements of Thaylone,
> > in that he is looking for a group
to belong to and acceptance, but he's
> > not as concerned as Thaylone is
about it. He's not a bad guy, but he
> > can be a little ruthless. Combine
the love of knowledge from Zolkiir,
> > with the pragmatism of D'Alleva and
the quest for acceptance of
> > Thaylone, throw in a little of
Quent's cowardice, and a dash of
> > prissiness, and there you have him.
> > I had to completely overhaul
his spell list. As some of you may be
> > aware, Necromancy (in my opinion)
has some of the most useless spells
> > out there! Yeesh! It's even
harder when you remove those spells that
> > animate undead. However, I decided
to make up my own type of necromancy
> > spell list. Besides those spells
that are actually necromantic spells,
> > I loaded him up with cold spells.
To my mind, cold is the element most
> > associated with the dead (and
please, let me know if you think I'm off
> > base), so I removed all fire spells
and now all of his offensive spells
> > are cold. To me, he seems pretty
cool, and I think his new spell list
> > will be very helpful! I can't wait
to use him!
> > So that's where my characters
stand, ready to go for next week. I
> > can't wait!
>
>
>
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