The question then would be whihch theme to use? Not played with Windows 10
here yet and not in a rush to do so.
On 26 October 2015 11:15:03 GMT+00:00, Steve S <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Colour recognition in the sets I’ve done, becomes more and more
important
depending on the complexity of the program in question.
If a plug has only 1 page with a few buttons that turn on/off, then the
buttons will probably be the only controls that use the colour
recognition. if, on the other hand, a program like Omnisphere 2 is
being used, then using colour to determine where you are, in any of the
25+ windows is essential.
Many times within a UI, a sighted person knows if controls are active,
available etc, simply by what colour they are, hence why it’s important
to harness those same identifiers. So, they would be something we need
to continue, but once a theme has been settled on and Win 10 has become
a bit more stable, then a bit of work should get us where we want to be
with HSC, best Steve.
From: Phil Muir
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:39 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
Some HSC sets do rely on colour recognition to detect whether a button
is enabled/disabled. Most sets don't. Setteling on an alternative theme
as Steve suggests is a great idea :-)
On 26 October 2015 00:59:59 GMT+00:00, Neville <nevnev.p@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Doesn’t HSC rely on color recognition to work?
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 6:39 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
Like DJX has said, there is a hack to load the classic theme, but by
doing this it makes many other features of Win 10 unuseable. At this
moment in time, the best way would be to settle on a new theme in Win
10 and amend any sets/scripts accordingly. Tedious work, but possible
I guess. Don’t have Win 10 here yet, but a friend of mine has
sonar/JSonar and HSC running OK, apart from colour recognition. Best
Steve.
From: D!J!X!
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:01 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
If nobody gets to it before then, I’ll install windows10 on a spair
drive and take it for a spin on my daw and see. Should have an answer
by mid week.
Regards, D!J!X!
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:41 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
While I was not as clear with respect to the nuts and bolts of the
details as you are, your answer is more in line with what I actually
expected.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2015, at 5:21 PM, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Kevin, having done some research on this, I was under the impression
that after windows 8 there can’t be any authentic classic theme,
because Microsoft actually removed the classic engine. There are some
hacks to enable it, but they crash allot of the modern apps and basic
windows applications like Explorer. The other choice when using a
similar scheme that resembles the colors is to use the high contrast
engine, however this is not a “true” classic theme with all the
components of the original, so not sure if CakeTalking or HsC would
work properly under such conditions. From what I read not all the
colors are the same either.
I’m assuming that DD has tested it’s products under Windows 8/8.1/10,
and they haven’t found a working solution that works without any hacks
or crashes, which is why they don’t support use under these OS’s.
This is the info I’ve found on the web about this, and haven’t had time
to test theroughly myself due to lack of time. However I don’t think
copying the theme file is enough if Microsoft has in fact removed the
classic theme engine.
HTH, D!J!X!
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:26 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
Has anyone actually done that? That is, has anyone actually imported
the windows classic theme from XP or Windows 7 to windows 10? Can that
actually be done? If it's possible, I'm surprised no one has tried it
ye t.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Autery gmail <autery12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That problem of not having windows classic in windows 10, can easily be
fix.
Secondly, the correct demensions for Sonar producer8.5 and CakeTalk 8.8
Do not exist in windows 10. This is true!!!
However, can be fix: Solution is simple,
1. Go to your old window and copy the classic theme and transfer it to
windows 10.
note:
make sure you place it in the correct folder and yourSonar p roducer
8.5 and CakeTalk 8.8 will run just as windows 7.
Have a nice day recording everyone!!! Bless.
Autery Weekes.
From: Mike Tyo
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 4:24 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
Thanks for your insights, Phil. I knew that there was a lot that has to
happen to make accessibility possible, especially in Superior Drummer
2. What you've done there is remarkable; and I'm sure you'd like to
make more of the features accessible as well - especially the
parameters for adjusting things like envelopes and so forth on the
drums. I don't know if that's even possible at this point; but you've
done a great job with what you're able to do with it now.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 02:56
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk
8.8
Sonar 8.5.3 runs well under Windows 10. Cake Talking will run however,
there will be issues with colour detection as there is no classic theme
in Windows 10.
I also want to thank David Pinto for developing Cake Talking and in
particular Bill and others like George for actively encouraging Cake
Talking development. It's still one of the very best available
accessible solutions for using multitrack audio and MIDI software on
the planet.
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