Michael. I'm listening. Are you saying that you don't see a need for a user to open a BRF into BrailleBlaster to work on it? If everyone elase agrees then maybe we don't need to do it. That does happen at APH but I suppose our transcribers could just use their existing tools for that. If others don't see it as important then I'm fine with dropping it. -----Original Message----- From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Whapples Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:56 PM To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate string May be my question should have been: Is this a scenario which BrailleBlaster is meant to support? I infer from your answer that this might be a yes although I am not sure really why it should be. Michael Whapples On 24/01/2014 18:44, Keith Creasy wrote: > I don't think so but it will be soon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael > Whapples > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:36 AM > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate string > > Is this a scenario supported by BrailleBlaster? > > Michael Whapples > On 24/01/2014 13:25, John J. Boyer wrote: >> Back-translation would also be used if the user wanted to open a brf >> file. >> >> John >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 06:25:31AM -0500, Keith Creasy wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> Back-translation only applies to BrailleBlaster in reference to six-key >>> Braille input and the desire to have both a text and Braille view.If that >>> is for some reason not the case then I guess we need to decide that. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Larry Skutchan <lskutchan@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Perhaps APH expanded the project's scope by targeting the development of a >>>> tool that transcribers could use to produce effective, accurate braille >>>> from EPUB or NIMAS files. Some of the techniques planned could use >>>> accurate back translation. >>>> How serious are the back translation problems? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael >>>> Whapples >>>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:49 AM >>>> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate >>>> string >>>> >>>> My understanding was that the project was to build a tool for producing >>>> Braille documents. Maintaining the original text and indexing it with >>>> translated Braille I believe is to remove the need for backtranslation, >>>> whilst allowing synchronisation of text and Braille (eg. for embossers >>>> with ink and Braille, to know where edited Braille is, etc). >>>> >>>> May be things moved on without me knowing and may be backtranslation is >>>> part of the project scope now. If it is may be someone could explain how >>>> it fits in. >>>> >>>> Michael Whapples >>>>> On 24/01/2014 09:43, Larry Skutchan wrote: >>>>> Isn't a reliable back translation one of the premises we build this >>>>> project on? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. >>>>> Boyer >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:11 PM >>>>> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate >>>>> string >>>>> >>>>> The string does not have to be in xml format. That said, try to avoid >>>>> back-translation as much as possible. It is unreliable. Granted, there >>>>> are some bugs, but even under the best of conditions it can give bad >>>>> results. ViewPlus discovered this, and it wºas one reason they proposed >>>>> UTDML. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:26:32PM -0500, Brandon Roller wrote: >>>>>> Does the string that I want to back translate need to be in xml >>>>>> format like translateString? I can't find anything about >>>>>> backtranslateString in the liblouisutdml documentation. >>>>> -- >>>>> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc. >>>>> http://www.abilitiessoft.com >>>>> Madison, Wisconsin USA >>>>> Developing software for people with disabilities >>>> > >