[brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate string
- From: Larry Skutchan <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
- To: "brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:42:41 +0000
We really could avaid the back translation problems by opening a brf file as a
locked, already translated document.
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[mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Creasy
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:01 PM
To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate string
Michael.
I'm listening. Are you saying that you don't see a need for a user to open a
BRF into BrailleBlaster to work on it? If everyone elase agrees then maybe we
don't need to do it. That does happen at APH but I suppose our transcribers
could just use their existing tools for that. If others don't see it as
important then I'm fine with dropping it.
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[mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:56 PM
To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate string
May be my question should have been: Is this a scenario which BrailleBlaster is
meant to support?
I infer from your answer that this might be a yes although I am not sure really
why it should be.
Michael Whapples
On 24/01/2014 18:44, Keith Creasy wrote:
> I don't think so but it will be soon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> Whapples
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:36 AM
> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate string
>
> Is this a scenario supported by BrailleBlaster?
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 24/01/2014 13:25, John J. Boyer wrote:
>> Back-translation would also be used if the user wanted to open a brf
>> file.
>>
>> John
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 06:25:31AM -0500, Keith Creasy wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Back-translation only applies to BrailleBlaster in reference to six-key
>>> Braille input and the desire to have both a text and Braille view.If that
>>> is for some reason not the case then I guess we need to decide that.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Larry Skutchan <lskutchan@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps APH expanded the project's scope by targeting the development of a
>>>> tool that transcribers could use to produce effective, accurate braille
>>>> from EPUB or NIMAS files. Some of the techniques planned could use
>>>> accurate back translation.
>>>> How serious are the back translation problems?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
>>>> Whapples
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:49 AM
>>>> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate
>>>> string
>>>>
>>>> My understanding was that the project was to build a tool for producing
>>>> Braille documents. Maintaining the original text and indexing it with
>>>> translated Braille I believe is to remove the need for backtranslation,
>>>> whilst allowing synchronisation of text and Braille (eg. for embossers
>>>> with ink and Braille, to know where edited Braille is, etc).
>>>>
>>>> May be things moved on without me knowing and may be backtranslation is
>>>> part of the project scope now. If it is may be someone could explain how
>>>> it fits in.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Whapples
>>>>> On 24/01/2014 09:43, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>>>>> Isn't a reliable back translation one of the premises we build this
>>>>> project on?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
>>>>> Boyer
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:11 PM
>>>>> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: LiblouisUTDML and backtranslate
>>>>> string
>>>>>
>>>>> The string does not have to be in xml format. That said, try to avoid
>>>>> back-translation as much as possible. It is unreliable. Granted, there
>>>>> are some bugs, but even under the best of conditions it can give bad
>>>>> results. ViewPlus discovered this, and it wºas one reason they proposed
>>>>> UTDML.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:26:32PM -0500, Brandon Roller wrote:
>>>>>> Does the string that I want to back translate need to be in xml
>>>>>> format like translateString? I can't find anything about
>>>>>> backtranslateString in the liblouisutdml documentation.
>>>>> --
>>>>> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
>>>>> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
>>>>> Madison, Wisconsin USA
>>>>> Developing software for people with disabilities
>>>>
>
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