[blind-democracy] Re: for Carl, Atheism

  • From: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 22:15:01 -0700

Far be it for me to try putting thoughts in Nietzsche's mind. This
was a man who could talk circles around me with his tongue tied behind
his ear. To my humble, straight forward thinking, we have here two
different questions. First, do I, as an avowed Agnostic, have any
vague feelings that there just could be a God Guy?
And as I have said before, the answer is, Yes! I can prove that God
exists in the Holy Books written by Men, and in their mouths. But I
see no proof of any of their Gods hanging around Planet Earth.
The second question is, given my lack of belief in Man's Created Gods,
Who or What did bring this vast splattering of stars and planets into
being?
Are we the bright fire given off from some mammoth child's sparkler,
or are we looking out at the super sperm rushing wildly from the
groins of some vast giant of a monster, rushing to impregnate his
equally humongous partner?
In Man's current inability to understand such an unfathomable
question, the answer is a loud and clear, "I don't know".
This universe came from somewhere, and it is most definitely going
somewhere. And it's going there very fast. But it's not going to get
there anytime soon, and most likely not during the existence of Man.
Science has picked around the edges, despite all sorts of roadblocks
thrown down by religions, national interests, and milling millions of
people who want very much to promote their own beliefs in order to
comfort themselves and hold for themselves the belief in eternal life
of some sort or another.
While I know that there is a great deal of stuff going on all around
us, stuff our humble senses are unable to detect, I have no inkling of
an idea as to where notions of Eternal ife came from. Except as a
defense by Man, against the knowledge of his own mortality.
All of the proof I see tells me that I am living my one life. I need
to do those things I believe are important, because I have no proof
that there is any other existence beyond this one.

Carl Jarvis
On 7/20/15, Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So by this definition, Nietsche was to an atheist, because he claimed that
God was dead, not that he didn’t exist in the first place…interesting...
On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

from Google

Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of
belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there
is
no God."


Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position
that there are no deities.inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief
that
any deities exist.[
It seems to me that this describes your belief. That is why I say that
you
are not an agnostic.

Miriam








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