[bksvol-discuss] Re: books with less than excellent ratings
- From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:24:40 -0400
Hi folks,
I sent out a rather sarcastic e-mail concerning books in only fair condition,
so let me clear up my position.
I agree with Carrie altogether.
Bookshare is a library which gives us (volunteers) a chance to make a real
contribution to print disabled people. Therefore, it should be a quality
contribution.]
With the soft-ware for scanning and correcting errors, there's really not much
of an excuse for books with "many errors."
Carrie, you may have been kidding about deleting all fair books from the
collection; but I think that's the thing to do. Then, we could see which books
come back with a really good scan. The one's that don't get an improvement
[probably don't matter. However, that would be a great way to find out which
of those books are popular while maintaining a good quality standard for the
collection.
All best,
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:05 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books with less than excellent ratings
Actually I wasn't kidding. Maybe we should delete all the fair books. It
would raise the quality of the collection certainly, and I haven't found any
fair books that are classics. (If anyone knows of a classic book in fair
condition, please let me know, I'll get it, validate it, and put in a better
version of it.) It seems like there are a lot of complaints about the quality
of the collection, especially of the fair books. In an ideal world, we should
get copies of all of the fair books, scan and OCR them, validate them, and
replace them. But I doubt that anyone is going to give Bookshare the thousands
of dollars necessary to purchase the 1000+ books. As far as I can tell (and I
may be wrong), very few fair books are being replaced which means that no one
really cares about them. And if no one cares about them, let's delete them.
I have another idea. Maybe Gustavo can see how many fair books have never
been downloaded, or have been downloaded only a few times, and delete them.
The books that have been downloaded more frequently, we can replace, since
obviously people are interested in them. The question is: where do we draw the
line between deletion and replacement? 10 downloads? 50? more? less?
Before anyone gets too excited, I'm just musing here, putting up a flag and
seeing if anyone salutes, playing the devil's advocate, that sort of thing. So
don't panic. The fair books are still in the collection.
Carrie
Julie Morales <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I kind of wonder if maybe Carrie wasn't joking when she said delete them
all? I don't know, but I really didn't take her seriously when she
suggested
deleting them all. Maybe my sense of humor is further out there than I
thought it was and I should have taken her seriously, but I didn't. Take
care.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Katie Star"
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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books with less than excellent ratings
HICarrie and all:-)
My comment was more not to delete poor quality books we have but evaluate
what we are doing now and raise the bar a little to avoid adding to the poor
book numbers.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:33 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books with less than excellent ratings
I'm not sanguine about deleting books just because they are in the Fair
category. If they're in that category, then people will probably know what
they are in for, and some may still get benefit from them. Also, certainly
some people have a higher tolerance for quality problems than others. If it
is a good Fair book, I may still tackle it; although if it is bad enough I
may do a rescan. I am actually planning one in that category for the near
future. (I'm waiting for my K1000 demo disc before I start.) But others
without scanners may have a choice between reading something of lesser
quality or not reading it at all. Why take that away from them if it is not
necessary?
Unless it is costing money to keep them, I don't see why they shouldn't be
kept.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books with less than excellent ratings
Yes, that's exactly what happened. The first books that started the
collection were not validated well (probably not at all). Unfortunately a
huge number of those books were science fiction, so the sci-fi category is
in pretty bad shape.
What does everyone think of deleting all of the fair books in the
collection? The sci-fi category would take a large hit, but I don't think
the other categories would suffer too much. I think the number of fair
books is around 1200, out of the 27,000 (approx) books in the collection.
Carrie
Katie Star wrote:
My opinion is... Maybe when bookshare started and when scanning software
wasn't as good a fair book would have been acceptable. But with what we know
can be done now, unless it was rare, maybe should be rejected. This could be
something that bookshare can consider as they look at other suggestions put
out this year.
Katie Hill
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Morales
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:37 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books with less than excellent ratings
Yes, I've noticed that, and that bothers me! I mean, I know they're
not textbooks. I know they may not be worth putting a lot of work in for
some, but if they're worth putting on the site, they're worth making as good
as you can make them, or at least that's how I feel. I happen to like those
types of books and downloading books that are barely legible, and sometimes
not even that, irritates me to no end! Take care.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "E."
To:
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books with less than excellent ratings
The books with less than excellent ratings are all categorized as
"Christian fiction" or "Christian romance." Just some feedback on the less
than excellent book question. Draw conclusions as you will.
At 02:01 PM 7/28/2006, you wrote:
>I was tipped off, as other listers have stated on previous days, by an
>email which informed me of the acceptance of a book of mine. Upon going to
>the new English books page, I did indeed find a number of new books. In
>that group, there was an unhealthy handful of submissions rated fair,
>maybe half a dozen or so. This seemed like a high percentage to me,
>considering the capabilities of scanning software these days. Has
>Bookshare cut down on the number of fair submissions?
>
>Scott
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