The problem, Rui, seems to be that the hard page breaks aren't retained in txt files. I have no problem putting them in, but when I tried putting them into a txt file I was validating, when I openedit again to work on after having saved it, with hard breaks and italics where they were supposed to be, neither was retained. Have you seen txt files with hard page breaks? Have you yourself been able to validate one and put in hard breaks that are retained? Maybe it's just my machine. I have a suspicion that, though I'm working, or think I'm working, on the txt document, the machine might automaically be using Word, though it doesn't say so --it says plain text. If I used something other than Text Only, such as Text with Line Breaks or MS DOS Text or MS-DOS Text wiht Line Breaks, or Unicode Text, would that make a difference? I thought when I asked once a while ago I was told to use the Text Only, but maybe that's the problem. I can't remember if I tried any of the others recently, although I did the very first time and it didn't make a difference -- but that was when I'd validated in word and converted back. Cindy -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10