I will submit a text file, if the Braillenote has decided I screwed with too many of the .rtf markers to allow my edited book to be exported as a .rtf file. That is usually the only time I do, or books that I have had forever, and have not submitted which I have several I am slowly working through. I try to submit in .rtf but when I have no choice, and it is either submit in txt, or or not at all, I do the .txt route. And yep been talking to the tech guys at Pulsedata about it, their solution, save as text before working on it on the BN, not happening. Another solution is to make multiple back up copies of a file, while editing, not happening either. On the bright side, files that are .txt files on the Braillenote do maintain page breaks, and some formatting. So... smile. That is why I do it. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner