[bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity
- From: Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:38:52 +0000
Hi Judy,
If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, it is something that
certain versions of Microsoft Word does automatically when you type three
asterisks in a row and press enter to create a new paragraph. I believe to
remove it you just highlight the line and select "normal" under the styles
section. This also may only happen in certain version of Word. For some reason
I thought that someone was able to discover/recognize it using a screen reader
but I don't remember who that was. Please let me know if this makes sense and
works as a fix and if not I can work with you offlist. If anyone else figures
out how to show this thing with a screen reader please let me know! I can also
ask some of our staff.
Best,
Madeleine Linares
Volunteer Coordinator
Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
650-644-3459
madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I'm concerned that that's the case, Susan. The book I'm helping out on was
returned to the checkout queue for the blind volunteer to do more work on, with
this listed as one of the problems with the book. If it turns out, with more
exploration, that it is a problem that the Bookshare conversion tools don't
strip out, and a blind volunteer doesn't even know is there, and doesn't have
any way of discovering or fixing it, then it seems to me that it's an
accessibility problem that needs a general solution, not a scanning or
proofreading problem that the volunteers can manage. At least that's my
thinking at this point after struggling to find a solution for this last night.
Judy s.
On 2/5/2014 6:14 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:
> Sounds strange to me! I bet we wouldn't even recognize it!
>
> Susan
>
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> Has anyone ever encountered an rtf created by Word that contains a
> border that is attached to a paragraph, but it isn't even necessarily
> attached to the paragraph where it appears in the document?
>
> This is not a graphic line per se, at least in the way Word defines
> graphic lines, so you can't search for it using a graphics search. It
> is a border that is specifically controlled by word's paragraph formatting
> features.
>
> As far as I've been able to determine, there aren't any codes that
> would allow a screen reader to find this particular kind of line in an
> rtf, but I don't know anything really about screen readers and I'm
> hoping there is a way.
>
> To a sighted reader, the paragraph border line appears as a line of
> small black boxes that run from the left margin to the right margin of the
> page.
>
> I'm helping out with a book being proofread that has this problem, and
> it's been a bear to resolve. I've figured out how to do it using
> visual cues and Word's paragraph border feature within the ribbon in
> Word 2010, but I can't find any way that a blind person could even
> know this kind of line is in the rft of a book, much less find where
> the problem actually occurs in the book and then fix it.
>
> I have a solution that works for a sighted volunteer, but I'd like
> help from an experienced blind volunteer to see if there's a way to
> find this kind of problem and fix it without relying on visual cues.
> I'm hoping that this isn't a word formatting feature that is totally
> inaccessible, and all based on sight.
>
> All help is much appreciated. smile.
>
> Judy s.
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