Sue, that must have been very frustrating! Did you space between the stars? I generally do not space between stars, and I have never had any problems with my proofread books being returned for more editing for boxes. It may be that it is necessary to make a change in the proofreading tab to solve the problem--Judy or Rose do you know? Lori C. -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:08 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity Susan, It is a book I proofed that Judy is fixing, and I had no idea those boxes were there. Madeleine's report said "black boxes above the asterisks", but there wasn't even a blank line above the asterisks on that page, soo I had no idea. My Braille display saw nothing!! Sue S. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Lumpkin Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:14 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity Sounds strange to me! I bet we wouldn't even recognize it! Susan -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s. Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:08 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity Has anyone ever encountered an rtf created by Word that contains a border that is attached to a paragraph, but it isn't even necessarily attached to the paragraph where it appears in the document? This is not a graphic line per se, at least in the way Word defines graphic lines, so you can't search for it using a graphics search. It is a border that is specifically controlled by word's paragraph formatting features. As far as I've been able to determine, there aren't any codes that would allow a screen reader to find this particular kind of line in an rtf, but I don't know anything really about screen readers and I'm hoping there is a way. To a sighted reader, the paragraph border line appears as a line of small black boxes that run from the left margin to the right margin of the page. I'm helping out with a book being proofread that has this problem, and it's been a bear to resolve. I've figured out how to do it using visual cues and Word's paragraph border feature within the ribbon in Word 2010, but I can't find any way that a blind person could even know this kind of line is in the rft of a book, much less find where the problem actually occurs in the book and then fix it. I have a solution that works for a sighted volunteer, but I'd like help from an experienced blind volunteer to see if there's a way to find this kind of problem and fix it without relying on visual cues. I'm hoping that this isn't a word formatting feature that is totally inaccessible, and all based on sight. All help is much appreciated. smile. Judy s. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.