[bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity
- From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:38:06 -0800
I have never had a book returned for more proofing for this reason, so I
probably have never encounted it.
However, if it were the only problem with the submission couldn't it be
corrected at Bookshare?
Lori
Lori C.
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I'm concerned that that's the case, Susan. The book I'm helping out on
was returned to the checkout queue for the blind volunteer to do more
work on, with this listed as one of the problems with the book. If it
turns out, with more exploration, that it is a problem that the
Bookshare conversion tools don't strip out, and a blind volunteer
doesn't even know is there, and doesn't have any way of discovering or
fixing it, then it seems to me that it's an accessibility problem that
needs a general solution, not a scanning or proofreading problem that
the volunteers can manage. At least that's my thinking at this point
after struggling to find a solution for this last night.
Judy s.
On 2/5/2014 6:14 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:
> Sounds strange to me! I bet we wouldn't even recognize it!
>
> Susan
>
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> Has anyone ever encountered an rtf created by Word that contains a border
> that is attached to a paragraph, but it isn't even necessarily attached to
> the paragraph where it appears in the document?
>
> This is not a graphic line per se, at least in the way Word defines
graphic
> lines, so you can't search for it using a graphics search. It is a border
> that is specifically controlled by word's paragraph formatting features.
>
> As far as I've been able to determine, there aren't any codes that would
> allow a screen reader to find this particular kind of line in an rtf, but
I
> don't know anything really about screen readers and I'm hoping there is a
> way.
>
> To a sighted reader, the paragraph border line appears as a line of small
> black boxes that run from the left margin to the right margin of the page.
>
> I'm helping out with a book being proofread that has this problem, and
it's
> been a bear to resolve. I've figured out how to do it using visual cues
and
> Word's paragraph border feature within the ribbon in Word 2010, but I
can't
> find any way that a blind person could even know this kind of line is in
the
> rft of a book, much less find where the problem actually occurs in the
book
> and then fix it.
>
> I have a solution that works for a sighted volunteer, but I'd like help
from
> an experienced blind volunteer to see if there's a way to find this kind
of
> problem and fix it without relying on visual cues. I'm hoping that this
> isn't a word formatting feature that is totally inaccessible, and all
based
> on sight.
>
> All help is much appreciated. smile.
>
> Judy s.
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