[bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity
- From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:41:51 -0800
Oh! Good to know. I will definitely use spaces from now on!
Lori
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:47 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity
Hi Lori,
I always put a space between asterisks if I'm typing more than one in a
row. I've set up my own copy of Word so it won't change asterisks typed
without spaces in a row into this kind of line, but if my word file goes
to someone else and their version isn't set up the way mine is, their
word can in the right circumstances automatically convert three or more
asterisks in a row into a paragraph border.
Judy
On 2/5/2014 5:37 PM, Lori Castner wrote:
> Sue, that must have been very frustrating!
> Did you space between the stars?
> I generally do not space between stars, and I have never had any problems
> with my proofread books being returned for more editing for boxes.
> It may be that it is necessary to make a change in the proofreading tab to
> solve the problem--Judy or Rose do you know?
>
> Lori C.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:08 PM
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>
>
> Susan,
>
> It is a book I proofed that Judy is fixing, and I had no idea those boxes
> were there. Madeleine's report said "black boxes above the asterisks", but
> there wasn't even a blank line above the asterisks on that page, soo I had
> no idea. My Braille display saw nothing!!
>
> Sue S.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Lumpkin
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:14 PM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity
>
> Sounds strange to me! I bet we wouldn't even recognize it!
>
> Susan
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:08 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Need blind help on a Microsoft word oddity
>
> Has anyone ever encountered an rtf created by Word that contains a border
> that is attached to a paragraph, but it isn't even necessarily attached to
> the paragraph where it appears in the document?
>
> This is not a graphic line per se, at least in the way Word defines
graphic
> lines, so you can't search for it using a graphics search. It is a border
> that is specifically controlled by word's paragraph formatting features.
>
> As far as I've been able to determine, there aren't any codes that would
> allow a screen reader to find this particular kind of line in an rtf, but
I
> don't know anything really about screen readers and I'm hoping there is a
> way.
>
> To a sighted reader, the paragraph border line appears as a line of small
> black boxes that run from the left margin to the right margin of the page.
>
> I'm helping out with a book being proofread that has this problem, and
it's
> been a bear to resolve. I've figured out how to do it using visual cues
and
> Word's paragraph border feature within the ribbon in Word 2010, but I
can't
> find any way that a blind person could even know this kind of line is in
the
> rft of a book, much less find where the problem actually occurs in the
book
> and then fix it.
>
> I have a solution that works for a sighted volunteer, but I'd like help
from
> an experienced blind volunteer to see if there's a way to find this kind
of
> problem and fix it without relying on visual cues. I'm hoping that this
> isn't a word formatting feature that is totally inaccessible, and all
based
> on sight.
>
> All help is much appreciated. smile.
>
> Judy s.
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