[bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of pages
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:32:52 -0800 (PST)
O.K.--Sorry I posted before reading Jake's and Lissi's
and others' posts. Ignore mine about the line spaces.
G.Cindy
--- Jake Brownell <jake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Pratik is correct in that blank lines at the tops
> and bottoms of pages help ensure a high quality HTML
> file (derived from the DAISY). I am not aware of any
> changes since we last observed that this was
> accurate. Page headers/footers should be the first
> or last actual text on the page. After my signature,
> I have included the portion of the volunteer manual
> that discusses this.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jake
>
> Jake Brownell
> jakeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 3.3.6 Feel Free To Clean Up Running Headers And
> Footers
> When a book is uploaded after validation, the Book
> Is processed by a tool which attempts to do four
> things:
>
> 1.. Identify recurring text at the top and bottom
> of each page known as "running headers and footers"
> 2.. Identify page numbers in the running headers
> and footers
> 3.. Remove text from running headers and footers
> 4.. Process the page numbers to allow easier
> navigation of DAISY books and include original page
> numbers in BRF books
> Volunteers can assist this tool by insuring that
> headers and footers are consistent throughout the
> book.
>
> a.. Capitalization should be used consistently
> throughout headers and footers
> b.. Tabs and spaces should be used consistently
> throughout headers and footers
> c.. Page numbers and text in each header or footer
> should be on the same line
> d.. Page numbers should be separated from text in
> a header or footer by a space or tab
> Note that the text will be removed by the tool if it
> is consistent, so the easiest way to insure that the
> tool can identify page numbers is to remove the text
> from running headers and footers. This is not only
> much easier for volunteers, but makes the tool's job
> simpler as well.
>
> If you wish to clean up headers and footers, please
> do the following for each page containing a header
> or footer:
>
> a.. Make sure that if a page contains a header
> that the header is the first line of text on the
> page.
> b.. Make sure that if a page contains a footer
> that the footer is the last line of text on the
> page.
> Note that lines containing punctuation marks or
> symbols, such as hyphens and asterisks, are
> considered lines of text.
>
> The following will also help prevent issues with
> page numbers in HTML files when creating an HTML
> file using the Bookshare.org Unpack Tool:
>
> a.. Make sure there is a blank line before headers
>
> b.. Make sure there is a blank line after footers
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pratik Patel
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:07 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank
> lines at top/bottom of pages
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Based on the confusion, I'll do some tests over
> the weekend and report back.
>
>
>
> Pratik
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Guido Corona
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:43 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank
> lines at top/bottom of pages
>
>
>
>
> Allison, the header processor is actually
> supposed to eat up headers; it should then extract
> page numbers and place them into the DAISY code, so
> that DAISY readers can go to the real page 4456,
> instead of the 456th page from the beginning of the
> file.
>
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most
> certain they were right who were guaranteed to be
> wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came
> closest to being wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> 01/11/2008 06:06 PM
>
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> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank
> lines at top/bottom of pages
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> Hi,
>
> I have been a validator for about 3 or 4 years now
> and really don't pay
> attention to blank line placements, and I've not
> had any trouble with the
> stripper eating my page numbers.
>
> Best,
> Allison
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:14 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank
> lines at top/bottom of
> pages
>
>
> > How does this no needing of blank lines match up
> with the need to put in
> > blank lines around page breaks and page numbers
> so that the stripper does
> > not remove said page numbers. If I am confused I
> can only imagine how new
> > validators feel. (sigh no grin)
> >
> > E.
> >
> > At 04:02 PM 1/11/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hi Sue,
> >>
> >>You bring up an important question. Let me
> clarify what I meant in my
> >>earlier post. Page breaks are absolutely
> required. That has not change.
> >>I
> >>didn't mean to imply otherwise. What Christine
> was asking about, or what
> >>I
> >>believe she was asking about, was whether or not
> a blank line needed to be
> >>included at the beginning and end of every page.
> These blank lines would
> >>be
> >>in addition to any page breaks. These blanks
> are not necessary. In
> >>short,
> >>the page breaks are required, and the blank
> lines are not.
> >>
> >>Hope this helps clear things up.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>
> >>Allison Hilliker:
> >>Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org).
> >>E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>www.bookshare.org
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52"
> <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:37 PM
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank
> lines at top/bottom of
> >>pages
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Hi Allison,
> >>>
> >>>If this is true, has bookshare changed their
> policy about page breaks? I
> >>>thought they were not accepting books that
> lacked page breaks.
> >>>
> >>>Best,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Sue S.
> >>>
> >>>----- O
> >>>riginal Message ----- From: "Allison Hilliker"
> <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:31 PM
> >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without
> blank lines at top/bottom of
> >>>pages
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi Christine,
> >>>
> >>>A book not having blank lines at the beginning
> and ends of pages is not
> >>>cause for rejection. True, the blanks can be
> helpful, but they are not
> >>>necessary. I verified
> >>>this fact with another Bookshare staff member.
> I'll also note that the
> >>>volunteer manual sets forth no requirements
> relating to this issue.
> >>>
> >>>Best,
> >>>
> >>>Allison Hilliker:
> >>>Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org).
> >>>E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>www.bookshare.org
> >>>
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