[bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of pages
- From: "Jake Brownell" <jake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:24:04 -0600
Hello,
Pratik is correct in that blank lines at the tops and bottoms of pages help
ensure a high quality HTML file (derived from the DAISY). I am not aware of any
changes since we last observed that this was accurate. Page headers/footers
should be the first or last actual text on the page. After my signature, I have
included the portion of the volunteer manual that discusses this.
Sincerely,
Jake
Jake Brownell
jakeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
3.3.6 Feel Free To Clean Up Running Headers And Footers
When a book is uploaded after validation, the Book Is processed by a tool which
attempts to do four things:
1.. Identify recurring text at the top and bottom of each page known as
"running headers and footers"
2.. Identify page numbers in the running headers and footers
3.. Remove text from running headers and footers
4.. Process the page numbers to allow easier navigation of DAISY books and
include original page numbers in BRF books
Volunteers can assist this tool by insuring that headers and footers are
consistent throughout the book.
a.. Capitalization should be used consistently throughout headers and footers
b.. Tabs and spaces should be used consistently throughout headers and
footers
c.. Page numbers and text in each header or footer should be on the same line
d.. Page numbers should be separated from text in a header or footer by a
space or tab
Note that the text will be removed by the tool if it is consistent, so the
easiest way to insure that the tool can identify page numbers is to remove the
text from running headers and footers. This is not only much easier for
volunteers, but makes the tool's job simpler as well.
If you wish to clean up headers and footers, please do the following for each
page containing a header or footer:
a.. Make sure that if a page contains a header that the header is the first
line of text on the page.
b.. Make sure that if a page contains a footer that the footer is the last
line of text on the page.
Note that lines containing punctuation marks or symbols, such as hyphens and
asterisks, are considered lines of text.
The following will also help prevent issues with page numbers in HTML files
when creating an HTML file using the Bookshare.org Unpack Tool:
a.. Make sure there is a blank line before headers
b.. Make sure there is a blank line after footers
----- Original Message -----
From: Pratik Patel
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:07 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of pages
Hello all,
Based on the confusion, I'll do some tests over the weekend and report back.
Pratik
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:43 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of pages
Allison, the header processor is actually supposed to eat up headers; it
should then extract page numbers and place them into the DAISY code, so that
DAISY readers can go to the real page 4456, instead of the 456th page from the
beginning of the file.
G.
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
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Hi,
I have been a validator for about 3 or 4 years now and really don't pay
attention to blank line placements, and I've not had any trouble with the
stripper eating my page numbers.
Best,
Allison
----- Original Message -----
From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of
pages
> How does this no needing of blank lines match up with the need to put in
> blank lines around page breaks and page numbers so that the stripper does
> not remove said page numbers. If I am confused I can only imagine how new
> validators feel. (sigh no grin)
>
> E.
>
> At 04:02 PM 1/11/2008, you wrote:
>>Hi Sue,
>>
>>You bring up an important question. Let me clarify what I meant in my
>>earlier post. Page breaks are absolutely required. That has not change.
>>I
>>didn't mean to imply otherwise. What Christine was asking about, or what
>>I
>>believe she was asking about, was whether or not a blank line needed to be
>>included at the beginning and end of every page. These blank lines would
>>be
>>in addition to any page breaks. These blanks are not necessary. In
>>short,
>>the page breaks are required, and the blank lines are not.
>>
>>Hope this helps clear things up.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Allison Hilliker:
>>Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org).
>>E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>www.bookshare.org
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:37 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of
>>pages
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Hi Allison,
>>>
>>>If this is true, has bookshare changed their policy about page breaks? I
>>>thought they were not accepting books that lacked page breaks.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>Sue S.
>>>
>>>----- O
>>>riginal Message ----- From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:31 PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of
>>>pages
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Christine,
>>>
>>>A book not having blank lines at the beginning and ends of pages is not
>>>cause for rejection. True, the blanks can be helpful, but they are not
>>>necessary. I verified
>>>this fact with another Bookshare staff member. I'll also note that the
>>>volunteer manual sets forth no requirements relating to this issue.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>Allison Hilliker:
>>>Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org).
>>>E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>www.bookshare.org
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