Sounds like Phoenix had a bad night, I agree that these have been all to regular lately, what happened to a dry and clear May? Looking outside this afternoon after getting out of bed and seeing complete overcast, what is it? Did we have a major observatory put a scope online to release this many moistions? Got in a good night with the 18" east of Benson with Sam Rua at his place, hampered by high clouds all night but there was usually a section from 1/2 to 1/3 of the sky that was clear. Just look for a haze around the brighter objects and avoid. The new Sky Commander worked flawlessly, putting objects in a 30' field every time. This allowed me to clean out Lib, Oph, Sgr and Sco of Herschel 400 objects in a night. Got a bit tired of globulars though and planetaries became welcome treats. Seeing was not good all night and mars came and went with just a couple moments, few and far between. We did a full session from dusk to dawn, these summer nights seem short! Have to thank Ken for the Fuzzy Spot, I followed his notes through Libra early in the evening and enjoyed his descriptions. I hadn't taken much note of the constellation before. Thanks for the invite Sam!! Sounds like we had one of the few spots in the state. Andrew -- Andrew Cooper Tucson, AZ mailto:acooper@xxxxxxxxx http://whitethorn.house.home.att.net --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.