Well guy's and gals if you really want to know what part of the problem is go to this link http://goes-8-gems.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/current/fulldisk_c03.jpg This is the GOES 8 global image see whats just off the coast of Pacific Mexico and of course our weather people don't even mention this. BTW the Western US cloud cover has increased over the course of the day since this morning when I decided to surf the weather satellites. When I saw this link http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satellite/latest_US_wv.jpg made me wonder what is all this red stuff south of Texas that was when I decided to go outside the box and went to the 1st link. Clear er a Skies? Dwight L Bogan. --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.