Rod, And of course, if the only people who can afford a privatised education happen to be the children of our overpaid 'sporting heroes', media personalities and the variously well-off, wouldn't society be so much better?! "Your parents can't pay for your education, so sit at home and find ways to teach yourself" is really going to work for the masses, isn't it? Especially if they have to pay to travel on all roads and there's no such thing as a community library. One of my favourite news stories about the US hospital system was of a car crash victim who didn't have private insurance who was taken by ambulance from hospital to hospital to hospital, where each refused to accept him. In the end, the city council had to guarantee payment before a hospital would treat him. Imagine if he had been a wealthy, insured person out for a swim or jog without ID and who became unconscious so unable to tell them of his insurance. In my opinion, just because you get unlucky at birth through having poor parents and/or genes that don't provide the ability to succeed, shouldn't mean you're left to wallow and die. (maybe these unfortunates could become commodities for the commercial researchers) As Geoff says, paying taxes is not the same as being mugged because in return we get roads, water, education, hospitals, police, parks, beaches.... Cheers, Terry