Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club! I've had way more problems with floppies than I do with CDs or DVDs. Bad tracks, unreadable, or funky mechanisms. The brand and make of CDs can make a big difference. When I get a cellophane wrapper of a hundred CDs for $7.00USD, I might get some bad ones, but not if I buy decent made ones. RobArachne at FreeLists -- Arachne, The Premier GPL Web Browser/Suite for DOS --