Bob, They under 10K in the US I think. Buy one and see how you go for a month. If you dont like it advertise it on this list and get rid of it. I am sure many on this list will offer to buy a month old machine for a 1k discount? How may Ayes do I hear? Anand Nice to hear from someone who has a number of different machines. I will check out the Embroidery Line. I have to admit that there many things about the Amaya which I like ..... my biggest concern [as someone who is used to and happy with manual thread tensioning] is the auto tensioning and excessive thread breaks which some Amaya owners seem to have. Bob =========================================================== =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================