[amayausers] Re: thread breaks
- From: "Kesavan" <kesavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:09:04 +1000
Rod,
I hope you share my sense of hummour.
I could go on here forever--write a book, so to speak. I believe the bottom
line is that the Amaya is a different animal than the others. It is a very
hi-tech approach to high speed embroidery
So is the space shuttle to space. LOL
Anand
Bob,
Guess I will jump into this one. I own 2 Amayas, an XT model and one of the
older (1 1/2 year) ones. I am also a private third party tech trained by
Melco to repair the Amayas but am not on the corporate payroll.
There are some really great embroidery machines on the market today. Trying
to get a straight comparison of the Amaya to other machines is like
comparing apples to oranges. No matter what machine you decide on, there
will be a steep learning curve associated with it. Contrary to popular
belief, you cannot take any commercial embroidery machine on the market
today, just plug it in and go into full time production without expecting
this learning curve to be present. there are just too many other variables
present
The Amaya has a computer controlled thread feed system. The rollers you
mentioned are an extremely important element in the Amaya process. The upper
pinch roller applies downward pressure on the larger thread feed roller that
in turn is driven by a thread feed motor controlled by the computer. The
downward force that is applied will, in turn, apply additional pressure on
the rotating axles or hubs of the thread feed rollers that set in plastic
retainers. As in moving part, that is in full contact with another, some
form of lubrication is a must. This coupled with the additional speed that
the Amaya is capable of running at will demand that you perform the
necessary lubrication to keep it happy. As a tech, I would venture to say
that 80 to 90% of the problems I have encountered with the Amaya have been
associated with improperly maintained, read that lubrication, of the
machine.
This lubrication is easy to do and is not the painstaking process that some
would lead you to believe. I would venture that if I were to be timed, I
could probably lube everything on the ENTIRE machine that needs to be lubed
in around 30 minutes. That includes taking out, cleaning and replacing the
rollers. The timers are set to only do partial lube on some areas at
different times. So to me, the lubrication process is a non-issue and should
be expected in any hi-tech machine with moveable contact parts.
The Amaya software has built in pop-up timers for the lubrication process,
but these are guidelines to follow and help remind you that "it is time",
but they also are NOT to be construed as the gospel to lubrication. With 16
needles, it would be a rare thing if all needles were to receive equal use
across the board. Therefore it is only logical to assume that the most used
needle bars need a bit more lubrication than what the timers would
suggest........other areas of the machine would fall into this "use"
catagory too.
Thread breaks........a definite part of the learning curve!!! There is a
multitude of reasons. I might get some argument here but, the one biggest
factor of thread breakage with the Amaya is first, an improperly digitized
design, maintenance and lubrication second. Hooping would come in somewhere
in the number three position.This coupled with the increased speed of the
Amaya simply means that if you want the speed the Amaya is capable of, then
it must be taken care of and designs should be properly prepared to run at
those speeds. Dense designs, extremely narrow columns and short stitches can
give the Amaya problems at the higher speeds. Any burrs on the needles or an
unclean thread path will cause problems. Not having the needle oriented
properly will also create problems. The list for thread break cause is a
long one and does not always point directly to a machine problem or any one
thing in particular. It can be one thing or a combination of things that the
operator has the ability to control.
I could go on here forever--write a book, so to speak. I believe the bottom
line is that the Amaya is a different animal than the others. It is a very
hi-tech approach to high speed embroidery and if you are willing to maintain
it properly, accept that there is a learning curve, in not only learning
what the machine can and will do, but also in design editing and /or
digitizing it can and will perform very well indeed. The Amaya and the
Design Shop software gives the operator more flexibility to customize the
emboidery process but as it is a computer, the old addage of programming any
computer applies...."Garbage in , Garbage out!!"
Just my thoughts--hope this helps Bob,
Rod Springer
Rod & Sharon Springer
Embroidery Cottage
Melco Amaya Technician & Trainers
Design Shop Pro+ & Digitizing
Boise, ID 83713
208-938-3038
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kushnerick" <bkushner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:24 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: thread breaks
>I do not own an Amaya but have considered purchasing one. To me, a
> common complaint / problem on this list regarding the Amaya seems to be
> thread breaks and upper thread roller wear or servicing.
>
> Can some Amaya owners [who also have plenty of experience with other
> machines using the conventional thread tension methods] give me their
> opinion of the Amaya auto - tensioning system compared to the simpler
> [and apparently less trouble] manual thread tension system used on other
> commercial machines.
>
> Thanks and have a great day.
>
> Bob
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