Peter, Maybe in the newer versions of Amaya OS the 4,000,000 stitch timer has greasing of the rollers, which may not have been in your 2004 manual. What version do you have, as it is in my version 7 software. Jack _________________________________________________________________ Test drive new cars from the comfort of your desk at carpoint.com.au http://secure-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/a/ci_450304/et_2/cg_801459/pi_1004813/ai_833884