I tried that with the hospital, they would not address the man. Feed co
probably has no idea why they bill the all caps name. pay him for what you
bought. The hospital knows exactly what they are doing. The economy would fall
apart without frns circulating. I think it should be used with anything gov,
hospitals, ambulance co etc.
On Jul 8, 2021, at 1:59 PM, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
if it goes to collections you good! because technically the Collections
bought and paid off your debt. SO when the collections call you, You tell
them there is no "privity of contract" But thanks for paying. Means you have
no contract. U don't pay. This is technically right. as if you should do
this or not. that's up to the end-user :-) there are 8 parts to a valid
contract.
Privity of contract Number 8
A contract exists only between the parties. No third-party can obtain rights
contained within a contract, or buy or sell a contract, without the express
permission of the original parties.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 3:54 PM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I still often operate like the days of old. So your saying that I call the
Feed company and tell them I need twenty tons of minerals by Saturday. The
bill comes in all caps name a month later and I say screw you. It's not me.
First I would lose a great honest relationship. Second, I'll bet if you told
him to send the bill with not all caps I'll pay. I bet the Feed company or
hospital would gladly oblige. Is that fraud for not advising the remedy?
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 11:58 AM Ray Greninger <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Commerce is trade between fictions. Law of the sea.--
Hospital bill-to whom or what is the statement addressed? It’s always a
fiction. Do you believe you should pay the bills of a fiction? If you are
trustee the answer is yes, but did you agree to be trustee for your own
estate? where did you do that? Yes, you got the service, but they didn’t “
bill” you, did they? They billed”it.” Why? Because it is your labor that
underwrites this whole system. How could they claim the man from whom all
value comes owes anything? It’s absolutely nuts, kooky, madcap but that’s
the system you are dealing with.
On Jul 8, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I participate in using dollars, promising delivery, posing obligations.
The issue with fiat currency is in that the United States is not the
printer but private bankers. But what does this have to do with paying a
hospital bill
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:47 AM Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You can’t pay for anything. all you can do is shuffle paper promises to
offset or discharge. FRN is just one way to do that. We can’t NOT
participate in this scheme unless we only trade in specie. Try that on
Amazon, you won’t get very far.
On Jul 8, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
True, so what?
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:26 AM Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All commerce is paper. Anything you sign has value. Everything in
commerce is a fiction based on a promise. Any corporation can turn a
signature into “money.” Doesn’t matter if it’s gov or a corporation
it’s all the same. Our signature is what gives the paper value.
On Jul 8, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Taxes is one thing. Hospital bill is another. So explain a bit more on
that. Hospital is a private business. Even if incorporated. You signed
into the hospital. Then what? Because if one can write off a hospital
bill. Why not utility bills? Or groceries? Try to explain further
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 8:23 AM Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charley, everyone is still talking as though “they” don’t owe that
tax. WE don’t owe anyone in gov anything, the debtor does. For
whatever reason people get into trouble because they have somehow put
themselves into the position of surety for the debtor, or they think
they have. It looks like they go after the man because they figure
you are the trustee and it’s your job to settle the account. I don’t
know if it matters whether or not you are in their jurisdiction it’s
your estate and you haven’t assigned a trustee so they figure you are
that guy. What I did worked, I think, is because I told the hospital
that the estate did not wish to be surety for their securities. It’s
my estate and they know it. Only I can speak for it. Everything you
sign is a security. I’m guessing here, but, that probably forced them
to go to the United States and press them to cover their obligation.
The point is the sovereign doesn’t owe anything and they know that.
They are just looking for the “tax payer” and they figure they can
con you into that role. I don’t think it’s about jurisdiction over
you so much as it’s about jurisdiction over the debtor. For some
reason people have a tough time wrapping their heads around that.
On Jul 8, 2021, at 3:41 AM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know many who have done that including me. Just stopped paying.
Afterall I was not paying property taxes already. My great uncles
saw to that. Very few get called in on income tax by just not
paying. What happens if your one of the few? Chaulk it up to just
the chosen one? What is the back up plan?
For those who use their codes and do not pay? Never seen any success
at all from it. No matter how sensible it was interpreted by the
common man. Even the sound statement; "Show me the law" is left up
to a jury of twelve to decide. Some win, some lose. I've not lost
yet.
I'll still stand on the basis I'm not in your jurisdicton and I've
got the proof. As a son of a sovereign who created the constitution
and stated I'm not involved in it. It tells me your United States
limitations. Why would I use any thing created from their forward in
time of history? It is just admitting I'm not a sovereign. I'm part
of the system. I'm a United States citizen. No thanks
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 3:04 AM Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And the call ins are where ?
I worry not about any section. I don’t pay any of the voluntary
taxes. Point is folks stop paying it already!
On Jul 8, 2021, at 3:55 AM, brian (Redacted sender "bhaz2" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Also, you will notice that in that 3rd paragraph, the IRS states
that their legal right to inquire about your taxes falls within
Title 26 USC Sections 6001, 6011 and 6012(a), (and NO OTHER
Section -emphasis mine!) Study ONLY those 3 sections!
So, if you get ANY letter from a lowly IRS Agent (NOT the
Commissioner) and they mention ANY OTHER IRC Code (Title 26)
Section outside of Sections 6001, 6011 or 6012(a), then it is
ILLEGAL for them to inquire! Know too, that Title 26 comprises
Sections 1-6999.
Title 27 USC (for the IRS) begins at Section 7000 and up, HOWEVER,
Title 27 USC is ONLY for Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms!
Sweeeeeeeet, eh!?!
Get in on Cary's Tuesday night call-ins at 7:30pm - 9pm CST, to
learn what you wont ever learn anywhere else!
peace, all!
b
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 3:18:54 PM HST, Rick Paris
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you for the info everyone!
On Jul 7, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Rick Miller <ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am familiar w/all that. Just thought the guy that asked for
the information was not sure where to look.
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 2:03 PM ejartz <ejartz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rick,
I think what carries referring to is the 1040 instructions.
There's a page called disclosure, privacy act, and paperwork
reduction act notice, and it used to be on page 100, but the last
two years they moved it to 105 and 108. Just by scanning through
the instruction manual between pages 100 and 108. The statement
he usually refers to is in the first column, third paragraph and
it's the first two or three statements. And what a refers to is
the IRS has the legal right to ask for a returner statement and
then they go on to mention something about filing. What you need
to do is go to Black's law dictionary and look up the definition
of file. You'll be surprised what it is
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 1:24 AM Rick Paris
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Does anyone know what page and paragraph of the 1040, where Cary
points out where he spoke in court about Statements and files,
(filing)?
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