Hi Ray Could someone start a VI Tescolist do you think? Smile. I know that was a joke but to be hoest it may not be a bad idea. There is always: vi-genaccess-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I guess it's down to the moderators here to decide at what point a thread is drifting too far off topic for the list. Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** vacation ## d ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq