Jackie wishes! (smile). I just like to pass on info that might be relevant to anybody else. I hope you get sorted today Eleanor! Jackie Cairns Braille Support Adviser Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Telephone: 01604 798024 Fax: 01604 798090 Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 14 December 2008 23:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited Yes it was through this list that I came to hear of it and from Jackie so perhaps Jackie will be looking for comission from samsung. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited > Hi. Yes I am. Your not the only one who has bought one of these. A friend > has bought the same model yesterday. The machine is becoming popular on > this list. > > -original message- > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 14/12/2008 10:11 pm > > Are you in UK Saqib. I think I will enjoy the NC10 when travelling and > visiting friends and family. > > Eleanor > From: "Saqib" <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited > > >> Hi Eleanor. I have my PC setup in the dining room with 2.1 speakers from >> Creative. They sound good with a 30 wot output. The trouble is it's >> always >> cold in there in the evenings despite the central heating. This is when I >> use my laptop. Plus it's much more comfortable sitting back on your sofa >> with the laptop. The desktop gets used a lot in the summer as it's nice >> and cool in the dining room. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:27 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited >> >> >>> You've got a fair point there Saqib because I would only invasage using >>> mine >>> out and about. At home I prefer to use my PC, not even necessarily a >>> laptop >>> unless two people are using computers. >>> >>> Eleanor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Saqib" <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:57 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited >>> >>> >>>> Hi Carrol. Personally I don't think the fan is loud. These machines are >>>> really meant to be used for short periods of time. A couple of hours is >>>> quite ok but if someone wants to keep a machine running longer then a >>>> traditional laptop would be a better option. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:28 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited >>>> >>>> >>>>> We have an Advent 4211 and I don't consider the fan too loud. We >>>>> haven't >>>>> used it for long periods at a stretch so I don't know either if it >>>>> gets >>>>> too >>>>> hot, but we're pleased enough for what we paid and for the reason we >>>>> need >>>>> it. Mike is not a heavy user and just likes to keep up with his email >>>>> and >>>>> music, with occasional quick surfing, and he's happy. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Carol >>>>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Saqib" <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:39 PM >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi James. Some people did report that the fan was a bit loud on the >>>>>> Advent >>>>>> 4211. I sometimes use my phone as a modem by USB connection. I get a >>>>>> decent connection and browsing speed. The Samsung netbook sounds nice >>>>>> and >>>>>> I will look into it in the new year. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "James Scholes" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: "Jackie Cairns" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:27 PM >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Saqib, I didn't like the Advent because of the pour build quality >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> keyboard design. Also, the machine tended to get rather hot when >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> it. And by the way, I use a program called Joikuspot on my Nokia N95 >>>>>>> which transmits my 3G internet from O2 from my phone as a WiFi >>>>>>> signal. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> then can connect to the internet anywhere on the netbook without >>>>>>> having >>>>>>> to disable my phone by removing my Sim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, December 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM (GMT), Jackie Cairns wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Saqib >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes I did, and would have gone for it had it not been for the >>>>>>> keyboard. >>>>>>> I just preferred the Samsung as I found the keyboard on the Advent >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> flat and not quite as tactile. What I mean by that is that some >>>>>>> keyboards are very flat, and the keys don't feel separated. >>>>>>> Otherwise, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> think the spec on the Advent and Samsung were identical. I think >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Asuss was even smaller, which is fine if you want something really >>>>>>> tiny. >>>>>>> I would just recommend people go out there and have a feel of these >>>>>>> machines before buying. While they are pretty much alike, there are >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> subtle differences on the keyboard and shape of the machine that >>>>>>> might >>>>>>> have a differing appeal. I think the Packard-Bell had a dual core >>>>>>> processor, but I just didn't like it, and am not a fan of that brand >>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jackie Cairns >>>>>>> Braille Support Adviser >>>>>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Sight and Sound Technology >>>>>>> Welton House North Wing >>>>>>> Summerhouse Road >>>>>>> Moulton Park >>>>>>> Northampton >>>>>>> NN3 6WD >>>>>>> Telephone: 01604 798024 >>>>>>> Fax: 01604 798090 >>>>>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Saqib >>>>>>> Sent: 12 December 2008 11:23 >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Netbook thread revisited >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jacky Did you come across the Advent 4213? That one has a simcard >>>>>>> slot >>>>>>> under the battery and you just insert a Three simcard in and use >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> broadband. This feature is useful for when out and about. No need to >>>>>>> look >>>>>>> for a wifi hotspot. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Cc: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:14 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Netbook thread revisited >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi All >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apologies for cross-posting for those subscribed to both lists, but >>>>>>>> this topic has been covered on Access UK and BCAB recently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Having been very interested in the thread of Netbooks, I decided to >>>>>>>> have a wander round while on a couple of days leave last week, and >>>>>>>> have now purchased the Samsung NC10. I looked at the Advent and >>>>>>>> Asuss >>>>>>>> machines, as well as a similar spec Packard-Bell and the Samsung. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> chose the latter because I just liked the keyboard that little bit >>>>>>>> better. For those who use a Pac Mate qwerty, the keys on the >>>>>>>> Samsung >>>>>>>> are not unlike it, and I felt comfortable typing on it without >>>>>>>> feeling >>>>>>>> too cramped up for space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've now installed JAWS, K1000 and Microsoft Office Professional >>>>>>>> 2003, >>>>>>>> and find it works a treat with these and other programs I have >>>>>>>> added >>>>>>>> and use regularly. In fact, it's a cracker! I particularly love >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> portability, and bought a nice little bag that takes its mains >>>>>>>> charger >>>>>>>> and has room for other items like an external drive or USB pen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those interested in wanting to buy one of these machines, the >>>>>>>> Samsung NC10 comes with 1GB RAM, 160GB hard drive, WiFi and >>>>>>>> Bluetooth, >>>>>>>> Windows XP Home, has three USB ports, ethernet connection, >>>>>>>> microphone >>>>>>>> and headphone sockets, and a battery life purported to be around >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 2.5 >>>>>>>> hour mark. >>>>>>>> They come in I believe blue, white and black, the latter being the >>>>>>>> choice I went for. They cost around £300. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All the machines I looked at had very similar specifications, with >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> slight variation on the estimated battery life. For me - and this >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> very personal to the individual - the Samsung had just that bit >>>>>>>> nicer >>>>>>>> keyboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far, so brill!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns >>>>>>>> Braille Support Adviser >>>>>>>> Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology >>>>>>>> Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton >>>>>>>> NN3 6WD >>>>>>>> Telephone: 01604 798024 >>>>>>>> Fax: 01604 798090 >>>>>>>> Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk >>>>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security >>>>>>> System. >>>>>>> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________ NOD32 3686 (20081212) Information __________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Check out my radio and TeamTalk server! http://www.jls-radio.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> James Scholes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> E-mail: james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> MSN/Windows Live Messenger: jamesscholes@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> AIM: JamesScholes000 >>>>>>> Skype: james.scholes >>>>>>> Website: http://www.jamesscholes.com >>>>>>> Blog: http://www.jamesscholes.com/blog >>>>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jamesscholes >>>>>>> Find me on Facebook! 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