<Copy> FYI, never ground to a gas line, and not to pvc water, or sewer line. Steel water pipe is okay. Our power box has a ground rod, which is a 8 to 10 foot steel rod about one inch diameter, plated with copper, pounded straight into the ground, with a special clamp attached to the top end, where you can screw down the end of a copper wire, and it has such a wire coming down from the power box. A HAM radio is grounded to such a rod. But please talk to the HAM radio store guys. They're very knowledgeable. <End> Thanks for responding. I will not ground to a gas line; I have a deep appreciation for natural gas. The office is grounded to the copper plated rod outside. I don't live in a tiny town or anything, but it is a smallish city (pop 42,000). In the phone book there is not a mention of a HAM radio store. Hmm, is there a way I can find HAM user in town somehow? Are they listed, registered somewhere? I am sure we have some. HAM operators sound more knowledgeable than sales people at Radio Shack <g>. Thank you. Robert For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.