Remove every account he uses. Once his friends start losing their accounts, they will stop sharing them with him.
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2009, at 6:27 AM, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You can never win this, with less than banning this kid totally, remove his account etc. Even then, he'll use somebody else's account instead. If he won't take the hint, I don't know what else you *can* do. Had the parents and police been informed? If that's what it takes... 8-/-- /Sorin-----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:18 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsThanks guys. This is such a major issue, even after the little brat has been warned, he got onto the next computer and started again. Taking up our time monitoring him, we know that even with restrictions on his account he has access to other students accounts. We have decided to lockdown his account to only the time he has ICT related lessons which is 6 time a week for about 1 hr. Even with that he is spendingtime trying to get in. Anyway tha ballte continues. Thanks Patrick ________________________________ From: Richard Bruce <richardbruce@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:42:00 PMSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsSorin,My experience has been similiar with that age group ;-) however, that's not what I'mreferring to.Most of these young wiz kids/hackers have already figured out how to network computers. I don't think you could give them a "playground" that would satisfy their curiosity as to how "real" networks run. And their desire to access information theyhave no right to access.I'm interested in networks, too. That doesn't mean I can hack my way around myemployer's network. Not if I want to keep my job. RichardFrom: sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsDate: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:05:27 +0200I guess a nudge in the "proper" direction is all you can do. The rest is up to them.8-)haven't met anyone that knows anything about a career plan, much less a pupil that listens to anything a grown-up suggests about something that's years ahead in the future. Their attention-span is minutes ahead of the moment, if that. I'm generalish II've worked as a teacher with pupils age 14-16 for about two years at a school. Iknow, but it's still a rather significant fact. ;-)-- /Sorin-----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:17 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsTrue, but I think the emphasis would be on helping them channel their ability intheright direction. What you might find is that these kids have a talent which we canhelpharness, and direct. This might potentially help them with a meaningful career inthefuture. What we tend to see is raw talent, unproductive and mis- directed. This particular kid wants a career in IT, but I am very sure he doesnt know what. This might help him channel his thoughts in the right direction, and be betterinformedwhen he makes his choice.But then, I might be wrong, and we might just be dealing with seasoned Hackers.Thanks Patrick ________________________________ From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:49:23 AMSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsThe risk here is that as soon as it's something organized by adults, the chaselosesits attraction. OTOH, setting up a lab-network and telling them to hack this andthiscomputer and find a file containing this particular text, might set them off. Kinda'likea treasure hunt. The coin has two sides though, as always. They might use the same techniques to hack you sharp production network, "just to see if it'spossible".;-) -- /Sorin-----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:17 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsHe must be about 15/16. Cos there was the talk of him taking his final exams. Iambegining to notice a trend in all the schools I support. We seem to have about 3or 4kids that are good @ things like that. Well these are kids we know, and I amthinkingof suggesting setting up a special technology group to help them chanel thier giftconstructively.I might create a mini lab/ network with a dozen old pcs, and get them to playandreaaly focusing and directing thier intelligent on good. Not sure how theprincipalswould take that, but I sure will suggest this to the IT director. Patrick ________________________________ From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:10:27 AMSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsNice, and also rather ingenious IMO! How old kid(s) are we speaking? -- /Sorin-----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:12 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsok guys, after some serious talking to, the kid has decided to let us in on someofhistricks.1. Download zip files allows him to get to the C: drive by being able to accesstheTemp Internet files.2. If he disconnects the computer from the network, it installs a local profile forhim, giving him access to the C: drive and the “Run” command. 3. He runs a “compressed” cmd file from within PowerPoint.4. By running “Find Printer” he is able to find users ac counts.5. He accesses “command.com <http://command.com/><http://command.com/><http://command.com/> ” (the equivalent ofcmd.exe).6. He runs cmd.exe to get to files on the servers. Should this kid not be studying, rather than keeping me busy? Anyway, just thought to share. Thanks Patrick ________________________________ From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:54:33 PMSubject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestionsYes I understand kids will be kids but it covers you. Jim Kenzig Blog: http://www.techblink.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:Hi Jim,This is an idea I have suggested, and I think there is a good case to push this forward. Whats I have found is that no matter how tight you try tomakethings the kids will seek to break in. In most cases because they do notunderstandwhat the consequences could be if enforced. Really annoying. Thanks Patrick ________________________________ From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms/ <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:59:44 PM Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions Well I am not sure about Australia but here we do have computerhacking laws and a simple "Your current computer activity appears to beillegalandyou may be prosecuted if you do not cease and desist" dm to the computermaybeenough. You of course also make sure that you have a proper logon privacymessage in place prior to logon that requires an OK click. Here is ours: THIS SYSTEM IS FOR USE OF AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND ACTIVITIES ONLY!Activities may be subject to monitoring, recording, and periodic auditsThe system and all content are property of CCPL and are NOT considered private. The organization may access any users accounts or communications.Anyone using this system expressly consents to the above and to allCCPL Policies and Rules regarding computer and Internet use and security. OK This should cover you legally at least. Regards Jim Kenzig Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/><http://www.techblink.com/><http://www.techblink.com/>Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Berny Stapleton <berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes, it was actually regedit and they were modifying the SAM. Quite clever really, but a little frustrating. 2009/3/25 Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp. <bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:Scheduled task can run in System context & allowsomeone to launch a cmdprompt or something with basically full control of thesystem.-----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Sorin SrbuSent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:39 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up yournetwork - suggestionsCould you please elaborate on the scheduler thing,what's that about? Thx.-- /Sorin-----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:38 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up yournetwork - suggestionsOh, turn off the scheduler. Keep your patches up todate. (That's theone that caught me)********************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000********************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 – Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free! <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/>
********************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000